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  • Kate 00:12 on 2017-12-16 Permalink | Reply  

    Was tweeted this Guardian Cities list of urban white elephants, which features both the Olympic stadium and Mirabel, but is a reminder that other cities make expensive mistakes too.

    Meantime there are plans afoot for a new train station …in Mirabel.

    • Patrick 01:08 on 2017-12-16 Permalink

      Paving over agricultural land again?! What is wrong with the UPA’s proposal to build the station on the other site?

    • TC 06:45 on 2017-12-16 Permalink

      I wouldn’t call all of the listed projects white elephants, in the proper sense. Most are useful, but all were way over-budget and badly managed. Olympic games seem to be the source of many, along with other sports venues. Boston’s Big Dig greatly improved the city, but also demonstrated that you need lots of competent public sector engineers overseeing the private contractors doing the work. Another siren seducing politicians is their wish for a “Grand Projet,” – Mitterandisme, if you will.

  • Kate 18:10 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    TVA apologized Friday morning for the unfounded story about the mosque.

    • Taylor 18:27 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      And keeps all of the now debunked stories online, available for the masses and/or La Meute’s consumption.

      Even better: Couillard says ALL Quebec media should take the opportunity to reflect and ensure this doesn’t happen again.

      Couillard commented on the story before it was verified, lending it some credence.

      To recap:

      TVA apologizes but keeps all the incorrect stories online; no retractions.
      QC premier says all media shares responsiblity in pushing this false narrative, though not himself

      What the ever loving fuck?

    • Jack 18:28 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      Wow they blamed their sources and not a massive failure of Journalism 101. The reporter said I have seen the contract where it is written in black and white and have filmed it. Then in the original story she asked a Mosque official if he hated women. This from an organization who fired a reporter for saying Kim -Jong Deux. I wonder why they fired that reporter and not this one, just asking?
      This was a dangerous story that sadly could have gotten people hurt or worse.

    • Ephraim 21:40 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      We need to add anti-fake-news education, like Finland.

    • Kevin 21:51 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      After the second retraction TVA finally yanked the original story.

    • Ali Bear 23:38 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      I wonder if it was TVA that started that WMD story a few years back that got Iraq bombed.

    • Raymond Lutz 01:07 on 2017-12-16 Permalink

      @ Ali, war crimes don’t make good jokes. Iraq didn’t get bombed, Iraqis did… I followed the invasion through two Iraqi bloggers, riverbend and raedinthemiddle, it was heart breaking. The smell of cluster bombs in the morning. Those pictures. Kids screaming in the night near the riddled body of their parents who didn’t understand the US soldiers signals at a checkpoint. Riverbend did a last entry four years ago, go read it

  • Kate 11:59 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    Citing safety concerns, as it tends to do, CP has rejected a plea for more level crossings in the Montreal area.

    • david100 19:03 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      I’m not understanding why people would want more level crossings. Is it so that people can drive more easily? Is it because they want fences down so people can walk over the tracks?

    • Kate 00:41 on 2017-12-16 Permalink

      There are several spots the city badly needs pedestrian crossings to disenclave certain neighbourhoods. One is right behind Parc station, to allow passengers to disembark on either side of the tracks rather than necessarily on the west side. I don’t think anyone actually does cross those tracks going eastward – there are barriers, you have to slog through a lengthy underpass – but many people already do cross illegally just north of Van Horne to get from the Mile End into Mile Ex or Little Italy. Lower NDG probably could use a crossing or two, and possibly the area where the Plateau borders Rosemont and is separated by tracks. Basically, anywhere people cut holes as soon as CP mends a fence is an area that needs a crossing.

      I don’t know how the city arranged for the two legal pedestrian track crossings I know best, one on the western edge of Jarry Park (to cross into Park Ex), and the other a few blocks north of there at Crémazie and Querbes, but those crossings work fine, all kinds of people use them and nobody gets hurt, so they explode CP’s pieties about safety.

  • Kate 11:48 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    The Chamberland commission brought in its report Thursday, calling for better legal protection of journalists and their sources. The commission was called after scandal broke over political meddling and police surveillance of Patrick Lagacé and of others working for Montreal media. Praise for the report in the Globe & Mail, slams from the Gazette’s Allison Hanes.

  • Kate 11:44 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    Montreal is at the forefront of a group of cities asking the United Nations to be included in planning for migrants.

  • Kate 01:46 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    Quebec and Montreal are pouring millions into a new structure for the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve. Think about that while you wait in the cold for your bus, folks.

    Update: In addition, work on the island track means Formula E can’t be held there next summer. Denis Coderre apparently committed the city to hosting the race for three years.

  • Kate 01:34 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    The STM puts homebrew winter tires on its buses.

    • PO 22:43 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      I’m disappointed in CTV for this one. Especially the video report, which was uselessly inflammatory, if that’s the right word. I have no doubt that the STM has a handle on what’s working for their buses, and grabbing a bunch of bystanders in a metro station to give their input is weak, too. Buses have been rolling here for way longer than the winter tire laws, and I don’t think anyone would ever argue that our buses are notorious for slipping and skidding.

    • Bert 00:56 on 2017-12-16 Permalink

      What is more disappointing is that the JdM ran the same story 2 weeks ago (and perhaps was also mentioned here at the time) http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/11/30/la-stm-prete-a-affronter-lhiver

      One seeming discrepancy between the reports is that the JdM quotes the STM saying that they save $300 per homebrew over commercial alternatives. Looking around it does not seem that there are M+S (the official requirement per the SAAQ) tires in the size that fits (current) Nova buses.

  • Kate 01:26 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    The nonprofit that ran the Formula E race – called “Montreal it’s electric” – is millions of dollars in debt.

    • Tim 02:29 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      I’d like to know how I can create a brand new, completely unproven nonprofit and land a 10 million dollar loan from the city with no strings attached. Anyone have any suggestions?

    • Chris 14:11 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      Brown envelopes to the mayor?

  • Kate 01:21 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    Firefighters are at grips with a five-alarm fire in in Mercier-Hochelaga-Maisonneuve. Once again, a condo building under construction is damaged by fire.

  • Kate 00:48 on 2017-12-15 Permalink | Reply  

    The Quebec construction commission investigated and has found zero evidence the Côte-des-Neiges mosque ever asked for women to be barred from the construction site outside, verbally or in writing. Right-wing mob La Meute are apparently still planning to hold a demonstration there on Friday: a statement on their Facebook page (which I decline to link to) rambles a bit about the doubtful veracity of the story but indicates the demonstration is still on.

    Friday morning: CBC radio news says the demonstration has been cancelled. Wanna bet this was at least partly because of the temperature?

    • Jack 03:02 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

    • Kate 03:09 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      I taught there last year. It really is called Rosemount, but I guess not for long.

    • Jack 04:38 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      It’s not that it’s the “news” story , where in the planet could the placement of one vowel be considered an affront to 6 million people.

    • John B 04:58 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      It seems like the are was referred to as “Rosemount” by anglophones for a long time. The Rosemount high school, (at the same address as the technology centre), has existed since 1951. A few minutes of Googling turns up references to churches in the area calling themselves “Rosemount [insert church type] Church” much earlier than that – for example, the Rosemount Presbyterian Church.

    • Raymond Lutz 13:50 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      Kate, you won’t link to La meute Facebook page but will you link to this? 😎

      La Meute vue de l’intérieur

    • Kevin 14:31 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      If you think PKP’s media is stirring the pot now, just wait a few months when it becomes apparent that the PQ is heading for third place in the election.

      (Something like 95% of OQLF complaints are not justified. There are several hundred people with nothing else to do except file complaints about every word of English they see. That’s all this is)

    • Jean-Guy 16:55 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      The PQ ship is sinking so it´s normal for them to resort to identity politics and stirring up the underlying inferiority complex in an attempt to gather votes, I´ve seen it before

  • Kate 18:32 on 2017-12-14 Permalink | Reply  

    CBC has a fascinating piece on news outlets discovered in Quebec towns that are total fakes, served from Russia or Ukraine and full of poorly translated content from other media.

    I garantee as Montreal City Webloog a true Montrealish bloog, unservulated from other contiential area by Articial Inteligence Thinking in Slavonic Lettrines or by ghosts. We, all of us, real Montrealites, with circulated Bread Bagels and hot smoke meats.

    • david100 19:23 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      I do wonder about some of the posters on your blog sometimes, though. If the Russians wanted Quebec to break up from Canada, they could do worse than recruiting some of the angryphones that stop by from time to time to pontificate about how Quebec is Mordor-by-another-name, and the Quebecois are committed to an agenda of pure racism, maximum social disharmony, and legal discrimination against all non-francophones. Your Russian government type gives that earnest angryphone a platform, a bunch of bots and trolls amplify the message and, hey, and maybe you can get people to focus again on just how annoying it is to share a country with such people.
      Then again, I notice that the angrys tend to mellow out once they find some English-speaking services, so maybe this particular Russian plot wouldn’t pan out. I’ve found that most angrys these days are new arrivals who don’t speak any french, so have a tough time during any interaction with the government or getting work. They then conclude that it’s wrong and unfair that they don’t get the full privileges of citizenship they’d have back home in Ontario, and cherry pick facts here and there to build a worldview of victimhood. But once they grow up a little, and especially once they have a job and a better command of how to get English services, they chill out.

    • Jean-Guy 21:42 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      I bet those fake blogs translate stuff published by JdM, TVA, La Vigile and similar garbage media outlets

    • Raymond Lutz 22:05 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      And what about Fake ‘Fake News’. Russian bots? What about US bots? “Generating enough income to live on”? How can they evaluate inbound traffic for a remote server? They cites CuteStat, here’s what I found about Cutestat: “It is fundamentally an ‘advertising’ Web site. 75% of a Web’s page real estate is devoted to ads. It simply cuts and pastes Web site traffic and valuation results from other Websites (say Alexa). A cheap way to may a buck through ads.” (Quora).

      You want real fake news? google “A Review of the FBI’s Impersonation of a Journalist in a Criminal Investigation”, Russia spreading fake news? What about QMI? The Rebel Media? Breitbart? CNN?

    • Kevin 22:32 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      There are more French angryphones than anglos. Look to the ridiculous number of baseless OQLF complaints and TVA’s reporting about mosques, translating Rosemount, Christmas trees at the SAQ and other nonsense

      Aside from that, the tactic is correct: sow strife through disinformation. It has been extraordinarily easy over the past two years to find right wingers/conservatives throughout the Anglosphere being targeted through a combination of blogs/fake news/ targeted Facebook posts and people who repost items while filing off the serial numbers, but it doesn’t take a whole a lot of digging to find the original source being a propaganda outlet.
      The problem is that most people look for things that confirm their own viewpoint and lack the willingness to search out the original article or even to read beyond three paragraphs.
      I suspect in the two years to come we will see the Russians concentrate on dis information targeting left-wing groups.

      15 years ago we used to joke about people who believed what they found on the Internet. Now those people have become the majority.

    • Roman 23:34 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      These aren’t fake news in a sense that they are trying to deceive. These are known as MFA (made for Adsense). Their only goal is to get trickle of ad revenue. There are millions of these sites online on every topic possible. It’s trash that makes money. It’s a game of numbers. Make 100s of these, each earning $50/mo and you are living like a king in Ukraine 🙂

    • Raymond Lutz 00:05 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      thanks Roman, so those sites are simply click farms, and not a nest of Russian disinformation. So calling those Fake News sites is fake news itself. And Kevin, s’informer auprès des medias mainstream ne garantit rien (remember Irak WMD? They were all over in the MSM).

    • Kevin 04:22 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      @Raymond Lutz
      I do recall laughing my ass off at Colin Powell’s presentation and writing that multiple non-US governments were declaring that the US had no justification for what it was saying about Iraq.
      Canada didn’t take part in that war, remember?

      But that was a different time.

      And yes, there are junk sites, some just for revenue, some just for lulz… but to FB and Google they are just as valid as anything else :/

  • Kate 18:05 on 2017-12-14 Permalink | Reply  

    Transit’s on Medium crowing about getting real-time STM data at last.

    Update: Worked today, my bus was exactly 8 minutes late and transit.app knew it!

  • Kate 11:46 on 2017-12-14 Permalink | Reply  

    A man who says he came out of a 2012 demonstration with his skull fractured in three places by a police baton is suing the force for half a million dollars.

    • david100 17:13 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      Something is going on here. He filed 1 december, 2002 and still no trial date. They weren’t able to identify through discovery or internally who the offending officer was (of course), so basically, you’ve got a trial where everyone will say they didn’t see anything, a civilian witness (or more) will say they saw him getting mobbed by cops, and medical evidence of his injuries. Why did that take 5 years to get to trial? Why didn’t the police just settle it? Then again, maybe they tried to settle and the lawyer won’t take a penny less than $450k, so the cops figure going to trial is worth it. Curious.

      At any rate – these unanswered questions should have been asked by the reporter, they’re obvious!

      Also – it’s lucky this guy didn’t die! Why were they bashing him up like this?

    • Kate 18:28 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      I assume you meant 2012 and not 2002, david100.

    • david100 19:06 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      Yes! 2012, not 2002, was a typo. It’s slow in Quebec, but we’re not in Bleak House (yet).

  • Kate 11:42 on 2017-12-14 Permalink | Reply  

    Laval’s mayor has asked again for a second metro link. Marc Demers isn’t hung up on turning the orange line into a loop, as his predecessor was, but he’d like to see the Côte-Vertu end extended into Chomedey.

    • Tim S. 13:09 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      A question: do car-owners in Laval and Longueuil have to pay the 75$ public-transit surcharge on their car registration?

    • Bert 13:18 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

    • Joey 13:40 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

    • Bert 14:54 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      That said, Laval, and any city served by the RTM do get hit with the 3 cent per liter fuel surtax.

    • ant6n 15:23 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      The Loop never made a whole lot of sense – it’s pretending to deal with a supposed capacity issue by building, effectively, a new extension to serve an area that’s already served by the metro. A loop only makes sense when there’s many trips across every segment of the loop — but there would be only a very small number of trips _across_ the segment that would close the loop.

      …Better build lines to new areas.

    • CE 15:29 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      I would think that a loop would take pressure off the eastern side of the orange line. I’m sure there are people in Laval getting on the Metro and getting off at stations in the west. Pretty much as soon as the Laval stations opened, I noticed that the orange line became much more crowded. It’s rarely as bad on the western side.

    • Bert 15:41 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      I don’t think you need a loop to spread out the load. What you need is easy access to parking (off the 15/440/13 as well asthe STL running to a hub to the western leg of the line. I would think that anyone from western Laval going to McGill /Bonaventure would find the western leg interesting. What would have to be done (IMO) is lengthen distances between stops, design single line access to bus transfers and lean on the plethora of shopping centers / parking for incentivized parking.

    • Joey 15:57 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      My hunch is that the addition of a western station in Laval (extending the orange line beyond Cote Vertu) would indeed take some pressure off the west-bound trains heading toward downtown. However, it would probably create (as much? More?) traffic on the east-bound trains. So: good for Laval residents, not so good for Montrealers boarding a few stops in from the terminus. Could work nicely if paired with the pink line.

      Does the STM run any trains that depart from Henri-Bourassa during rush hour?

    • Blork 16:17 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      I agree with CE and Joey that a loop would take pressure off the eastern leg of the orange line, as some riders will opt to go down the western leg instead. But I also agree that it’s something that is good for Laval people but not good for Montrealers, as it bascally clogs the line before it even exits Laval.

      Given that the vast majority of Laval people are going all the way downtown, it seems to me that they’d be better served by above-ground rail that has a lot of suburban stops and then does an express run to downtown. That would get Laval people downtown quicker and it would relieve the overcrowding that Montrealers experience on the Orange line. After all, subway systems are not meant to be for commuting from the suburbs; they’re for getting around the city.

    • Jonathan 12:02 on 2017-12-15 Permalink

      Seems like it would be more time and cost effective to have a brt line that goes down chomedy/laurentian Blvd with a direct link to the future bois franc rem station. This would give them a much quicker link to downtown from Laval.

  • Kate 11:38 on 2017-12-14 Permalink | Reply  

    A cold day with some truly frigid wind chill Thursday.

    • Lola 14:30 on 2017-12-14 Permalink

      Welcome to Canadian winter !

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