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Kate 10:03 on 2019-02-19 Permalink Reply  

• Joey 10:37 on 2019-02-19 Permalink

  «Quand on a une ligne diagonale, les gens savent moins où elle va. Elle a donc moins de potentiel de rabattement. Je crois qu’une ligne qui serait plus traditionnelle fonctionnerait davantage», a-t-il fait valoir, notant que le réseau routier le métropole représente un quadrillage où une ligne de métro diagonale pourrait difficilement s’intégrer.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

• Alex L 12:34 on 2019-02-19 Permalink

  Peu importe son axe, je crois que tout le monde s’entend pour dire qu’on a besoin d’une nouvelle ligne de métro pour désengorger la ligne orange. On dirait que Québec regorge d’idées pour éviter le sujet…

• Jonathan 13:09 on 2019-02-19 Permalink

  I think that the ‘people will be confused about where the line goes’ has to be the silliest excuse not to build a diagonal line.

  People are adaptable.

• Daniel 17:50 on 2019-02-19 Permalink

  It’s insane this wasn’t researched beforehand. I’m almost certain enough of the Mascouche users will switch at Sauvé with bad consequences for people South of Jean-Talon.

  I was also of the understanding that the REM won’t be covered by a standard STM pass (I could be wrong). If so, most users are going to continue with the Blue Line to get Downtown rather than pay a surcharge.

• Spi 18:41 on 2019-02-19 Permalink

  @daniel the final pricing for the fares hasn’t been done but it will maintain the current zone structure. Meaning you have access to all the modes of transportation available to you for the zone you paid for.

• Daniel 21:38 on 2019-02-19 Permalink

  The Metro doesn’t really operate on zones though, only the commuter lines. Are you saying you’ll need a pass which covers the big trains?

• DeWolf 00:59 on 2019-02-20 Permalink

  Montreal’s entire transit fare structure will be revised later this year (see link below).

  I believe the idea is to simplify and unify fares across the metropolitan area. Presumably (hopefully?) this will mean you will be able to load an Opus with cash value so you don’t need to buy separate tickets each time you go to Laval, Longueuil, or you take the commuter train/REM.

  It’s kind of absurd that Montreal has maintained a ticket-based fare system even with Opus, which has the potential to allow for much more flexible ways of paying for transit. In many other cities, you load cash value onto your card and it is deducted each trip, with automatic discounts and rebates depending on how many trips you take, which connections you make, etc. This is what makes the smart card “smart” in the first place.

  https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/201812/08/01-5207333-transports-en-commun-vers-une-refonte-complete-de-la-grille-tarifaire.php

• Daniel 09:40 on 2019-02-20 Permalink

  Thanks for the link! I wasn’t aware this was happening, and it makes a lot of sense to use the opportunity to overhaul the fare structure. I wonder though if Opus will need an upgrade too in order to handle a more complex fare system? I guess that’s a discussion for another thread.

• Faiz Imam 12:58 on 2019-02-20 Permalink

  There’s a reason opus cards expire every few years. The newer versions have upgrades the initial model from a decade ago did not.

  Hopefully they are following global standards and are up to date, if so its only a question of upgrading the machines (even there, I’m hoping a software/server upgrade is all that’s needed, and not replacing the machines.)

  They have also been testing using Credit cards and cell phones directly to pay for fares. I am also hoping those tests work well enough that it’ll be built in to the new system.

  This new fare system has a massive impact on how much people will use various sorts of transit. While its 100% that there will be losers as well as winners, I hope overall it does its job of promoting greater use of the system.