Barbers, hairdressers and similar personal service providers in Montreal will be allowed to reopen as of June 15.
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Kate
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Kate
Forty-one students and staff have tested positive for Covid since schools reopened outside Montreal on May 11.
Uatu
Hoping these kids don’t also get the accompanying Kawasaki – like inflammation as well
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Kate
Can people stay distanced on Ste-Catherine? Granted the photographer in this item may have used a long lens with a tendency to flatten the plane and make subjects look closer than they are, but it’s not a wide sidewalk and there are a fair number of people concentrated in some of the shots.
On Time Out, JP Karwacki asks plaintively When will bars open in Montreal? and there is no answer. Nobody goes to a bar to line up in a distanced way to purchase a measure of alcohol and then sit 6 feet away from anyone else.
Speaking of which, St-Hubert BBQ got collared this week for selling pre-mixed gin and tonic to go with its deliveries. It’s allowed to send beer or wine, but not spirits, although the producer of the canned drink protests it’s only got half the alcohol content of a typical wine. Still, it’s now off the menu.
DeWolf
The issue with bars is licensing, because if you have a bar licence you can’t sell food or booze to go, but you can if you have a restaurant or brewpub licence. I think even bar owners know it’s going to be a very long time before customers can be packed indoors like before, but they want an equal shot at surviving by selling takeaway food and drink.
I’ve read a lot of online comments about this where people don’t seem to understand that not all places with bar licences are dingy taverns that sell quilles of Labatt and pitchers of Coors Light. A lot of bars specialize in craft beers, private-import wines and complicated cocktails that you simply can’t get at the dep or SAQ. And a number of bars have food that rivals the best restaurants. Soif is a wine bar in Gatineau is that is considered one of Canada’s best, but because it has a bar licence it can’t even sell its private imports and highly praised dishes to go. Bar Saint-Denis and Vinvinvin are two local examples – they have chef-driven food menus, but because they’ve licensed as bars, they need to stay completely shut.
Most European countries that have de-confined are allowing bars to reopen their terraces with restrictions on capacity and distance. I saw a news clip of a nightclub in Berlin that had transformed its courtyard space into a beer garden with tables 2m apart, with no more than four people per table and obligatory masks for servers and any customer who isn’t sitting down. There are probably quite a few bars for which that could work here.
Another related issue is alcohol in public spaces. I’ve had a couple of solitary beers in the park already, simply for a change of scenery because I spend 23 hours a day at home. But each time I do so I risk a $150 ticket because legally you can only have booze in certain parks and only if you have a “meal” (the definition of which is entirely up to the cops). Police have been very unusually active in giving out tickets for public drinking this summer, and their time might be better spent if people could legally drink in public and the cops only had to worry about drunk and disorderly people rather than anyone who is having a quiet tipple.
qatzelok
Are a lot of people actually *unable to mix gin and tonic themselves at home* while waiting for their fried chicken to arrive?
I find this demonstrates a shocking lack of resilience.
Kate
qatzelok, remember, you have to line up at the SAQ to get gin – spending what, a minimum of $20 or so on a half-size bottle – then line up somewhere else to buy tonic (not something you can find at every dep), maybe remember to get limes for garnish, and ideally have ice cubes handy in a freezer which is quite tightly stocked with isolation food.
Or, you know, just pop a can or, for a short time, order it along with your chicken and fries.
DC
No one wants bars to open more than I. Bars can be taped off to comply with social distancing but once a few drinks have been consumed it will be impossible to keep people from bro-hugging and back slapping. It takes concentration to maintain the distancing and that may not be uppermost in people’s minds after a few
Uatu
People can’t even maintain social distance walking on the side walk because they have their nose buried in a phone to pay attention to what’s going on around them even in a pandemic. Then get booze into them and see what happens. And like in NB it only takes one person to slack off to ruin a bunch of people’s lives
DeWolf
It’s a very peculiar idea that everyone gets sloppy drunk and handsy as soon as they’re given alcohol.
If you don’t think bars should be allowed to open for takeout business, I sure hope you are also opposed to restaurants selling wine and beer with their takeaway food, just for consistency’s sake.
Kate
Took a brief bus ride Friday afternoon, to and fro. Fro, it was just on the verge of rush hour. The 55 was moderately full and fewer than half the riders were wearing masks.
Blork
WRT to distancing on Ste-Catherine, I’m not convinced this is a big problem. AFAIK it seems to be sustained contact that represents the significant risk (sitting together socially, crowded transit, snogging) as well as places where there is a lot of shared object touching. Not so much just walking around.
I know that media is awash with disjointed and often contradictory info on this, but based on what seems to be the actual infections (primarily in long-term care fascilities, hospitals, meat factories, etc.) and the pretty low overall infection rate among people who don’t go to those places, socialize, etc., I’m inclined to think that just being able to walk around (masked, ideally) is in the realm of acceptable behavior and low risk.
Mark
I found this article to be really helpful in establishing a frame of reference for assessing risk. Basically, the riskiest is long indoor exposure with poor ventilation, and the least risky is outdoor contact with little sustained contact (what Blork is saying). It’s actually quite hard to catch COVID just by crossing random strangers on the street, there just aren’t enough infected droplets to transmit the virus. Masks are still recommended.
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them
Michael Black
It’s a tradeoff. We can’t all go into deep sleep till whenever. Some things have to keep gping, we need food if nothing else. 2 metres may or may not be optimum,but wider makes things even more impractical. Closer is unavoidable in some situations, but yes, there’s a difference between being at a store and waiting close to someone trying to decide which chips to buy, and two people briefly passing each other in the streets.
I’d argue that one reason for the last few months is that people will keep their distance as things open up. The chances of a specific person getting the virus is very low, the point is to keep the spread low.
As more interaction happens, the spread may increase, but will be limited if enough people at least try to keep their distance.
The fallout is some fear the worst, and some will report even vague “rule breaking”. And some take things literally, complaining about too many people in the parking withiut considering that maybe they should go elsewhere.
Some of this is propaganda, not for sinister reasons but to limit the spread of the virus. Government wants people to comply, and a bit of fear is better than rigid enforcement. But for some, they may see the worst,
Spi
The problem is that sidewalks are no longer just sidewalks they’ve also become a waiting area. All stores are operating at reduced capacity and making their customers wait outside. It’s practically impossible to keep 2 meters apart on sainte-catherine, and since stores have such small storefronts lines for one store will inevitably overlap with the one next door. So you’ve got people in close proximity (most of which not wearing masks) for an extended period of time. Precisely the situation we’re trying to avoid.
david642
They should repeal the prohibition on open containers full stop – it should be impossible for a municipality to control the consumption of alcohol anywhere in the public realm. Ticket for drunkenness, ticket for disturbing the piece, ticket for litter – do not ticket for possession/consumption of alcohol.
Likewise, all restaurants and bars should be allowed to sell takeaway drinks. There is absolutely no logic – none – aside from inertia in this absolutely insane idea that selling a takeaway cocktail is justifiably prohibited.
I applaud the beer and wine sales, and I’ll contribute time and money to make sure that this rule never changes back. But we need to push harder: this is one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities that the community should seize to get the laws changed. Whether that’s a borough mayor, PM at city hall, Sergakis and his slimy ilk, the producers, the restauranteurs, communities groups, or a crusading politician – who cares? Change this stupid law on open containers, let people order cocktails to walk the old town or Sainte Catherine, or to take to the park. Let’s do this while we have a critical mass of people who are on side, before they forget about it.
Yes!
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Kate
Hundreds of Jump bikes were spotted in the trash outside Montreal.
mare
Outrage generates clicks, but a few possible reasons:
1) AFAIK Montreal’s scrap yards were closed until Monday, that might be the reason they are so far away. The next day they were probably shredded because of optics and contracts.
2) Jump is sold to another company and its exact status is unclear.
3) The Jump bikes can’t be used without the app to unlock them. They’re especially made that way to prevent theft. Standard, without power and unlocking permissions through the app, they are locked with a thick, very hard to access bolt.
4) The bikes use many non-standard parts, so even if you manage t unlock them, you can only ride them until they need repair.
5) These particular bikes might actually *need* repair, and the repair might be more costly than the scrap value. Or, because of the company ownership change, the repair shop might have run out of parts as well, and taken apart some bikes for spare parts.Chris
This is Uber once again being a horrible actor:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791mare, all fine points, but it’s still a perfect example of how our current system of capitalism is bad for the environment. Scarce materials and energy are used to create these things, and then they are just wastefully destroyed. All just hand waved away because of ‘liability’ and other BS.
Kate
mare, I was merely surprised to see that a technology that was so recently hailed as groundbreaking was literally in the dumpster.
mare
@Kate @Chris. I saw an article about this happening in other cities too.
Jumps are really well-made bikes, but they get quite a beating. And being also protected against theft some repairs are impossible, so they get recycled. Happens to cars too, sometimes they get crushed after what looks like minor accidents.
At least the metal of frames is easily recyclable, unlike the metal in millions of car tyres that get discarded every year.
Dhomas
I doubt that if Communauto went bust tomorrow, all their cars would be sent to the scrap heap…
CE
I wonder what happened to all those Car2Go smart cars.
Dhomas
They were sold to unspecified buyers, but not to the general public: “Vehicles will not be made available for sale to the general public,” Young explained. “What I can tell you is that vehicles in impacted cities will be sold.”
Source : https://www.vancourier.com/news/car2go-will-have-fewer-vehicles-on-the-road-in-vancouver-before-exit-date-1.24039447Also, when Teo sorta kinda went away, all their electric vehicles were sold in Ontario. This is because the resale value of electric vehicles is higher in Ontario on account of their not having subsidies on EVs as we do in Quebec.
Source:
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/02/12/les-vehicules-de-teo-taxi-envoyes-en-ontario-1GC
I have seen Car2Go cars–or maybe just the same one?–in town and wondered who owned them now.
Very interesting about Teo. I idly wondered what was done with all those vehicles.
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Kate
Four of La Presse’s journalists have a byline on this interview with city public health director Mylène Drouin, who says it was a mistake for Quebec to direct its response to the pandemic from Quebec City rather than Montreal, and has some sharp things to say about Gaétan Barrette’s cuts in funding to public health, and his rearrangement of the health bureaucracy that made it harder to organize the city’s response.
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Kate
So what happens if someone who lives in a rooming house is told to self-isolate? It’s dicey.
david642
I truly feel like I’m in a Conrad Black-style jail right now. I can actually, in real time, feel myself getting increasingly mentally unwell, like ongoing low grade accumulating psychological trauma from isolation, repetition, boredom, stress, and far far too much time online. So, I really feel genuinely sympathetic to the poor souls who are suffering through this in a single bedroom, it has to be very challenging mentally to be in what amounts to a jail cell, or what did until fairly recently, when the weather turned.
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Kate
The STM is supposed to launch a temporary app so passengers can buy and validate bus tickets, to allow for contactless purchase.
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Kate
Aaron Derfel reports that the city’s ERs are turning into Covid hotspots.
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Kate
The city’s expenses connected with the pandemic have already exceeded estimates by $20 million.
david642
Cut it all off. Dump the responsibility on the province, nobody will know anyway, since the city takes such a backseat, and Legault et al. are running the show anyway.
Instead, the city should drop all spending to life support levels, and plough absolutely every possible resource into getting as many worthwhile projects – especially rail rapid transit expansion – as close to shovel ready as possible before the end of summer.
It should be an all hands, around-the-clock operation, just drop into that hole hard, purpose-oriented work to get the file ready for our people to lobby the feds, up to and including Trudeau himself.
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Kate
The A20 downtown will be closed for three days starting Thursday evening.
Work planned this weekend for the Jacques-Cartier has been delayed because of rain.
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Kate
André Boisclair, the Outremont boy who led the PQ to a stunning defeat in the 2007 election, has been accused of an armed sex assault back in 2014. Compare the CTV photo to this one in La Presse: fair enough, everyone ages, but this really looks like the wrong side of the picture of Dorian Gray.
Friday morning, Boisclair turned himself in.
david202
Knew he’d lose that election when at a bar I used to frequent (now gentrified into oblivion, he was called simply “la tapette.”
Ian
If only the PQ had some sort of warning, way of knowing that they weren’t actually a progressive party, like the attitudes of their party faithful around race and ethnic identity or something.
It’s always been one of their greatest failings that they try to position themselves as socially progressive, without actually being tolerant of diversity.
Hamza khan
I just remember him for admitting he was doing lines off his desk while in office as PQ leader
Michelle Daines
Allegedlly.. f he is found guilty he will go to jail…where he will be deprived…where there is no coke…no men…no booze…no sex…wadeaminute…..
walkerp
Damn, he looks rough! I give you a laughing emoji for the Dorian Gray reference. I can imagine Boisclair wilding in back alleys of the London docks. That guy has seen some shit for sure.
dwgs
While I am no fan of Boisclair I will say this; he and I are the same age and there’s a helluva drop between 40 (about when we saw him last) and 54. It ain’t pretty.
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Kate
La Presse (via AFP) says Wednesday was the hottest day in Montreal history.
Cooling stops are open around town. (What’s a better translation of halte-fraîcheur?)
ProposMontreal
Beside the subject, La Presse is taking a text of 227 words and a video I could pump out in about 30 minutes ( I know I make some of those) from a French agency on a subject that just happens to be from their own hometown. That’s actually kinda sad.
DeWolf
Small clarification: it was hottest May day in history, but the absolute hottest remains August 1, 1975 at 37.6 degrees.
Kate
The headline did say hottest, until Propos tweeted La Presse.
david202
I’m amazed it’s not higher – some days I can remember almost hallucinating from the heat.
Blork
Bear in mind we were spared some discomfort yesterday because the humidity was only around 35%. Had it been up around 80%, which isn’t unusual in the worst days of summer, it would have been unbearable.
curious
Toronto calls them “cooling centres.”
Ian
I’ve seen anglo media in town calling them “cooling stations”
Max
Let’s go with “chill spots”. That way we can dispense with one extra term.
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Kate
A small synagogue in Côte St-Luc was ransacked and its ritual items defiled at some time before this week, but like other religious sites it has been closed so the exact time of the incident is unknown.
ProposMontreal
Hate crime or just hooliganism?
Kate
It’s a pretty specific action, to locate a synagogue in a residential setting and defile its Torah.
dwgs
…and write anti Semitic graffiti on the walls…
Chris
Definitely seems like more than mere hooliganism.
A bit weird though that the article says both: “This disgusting act of antisemitism comes on the eve of our holiday of Shavuot” and yet “she did not know when the ransacking occurred … The synagogue had been closed since mid-March due to the pandemic.” Seem unjustified to link it to this holiday, when it could have been done months ago.
Kate
Chris, if you read the statement as “Knowledge of this act comes on the eve of our holiday of Shavuot” it’s understandable. She wasn’t saying she knew when it happened, only that discovery of the damage came on the eve of the day Jews celebrate the Torah, making it particularly painful.
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Kate
A study shows Quebecers are the most nonchalant people in North America about the consequences of a second wave of Covid, but computer modelling shows that we need to maintain social distancing to keep a lid on it.
One single health care professional who took a trip to Quebec from Covid-free New Brunswick has sparked an outbreak there.
Quebec is having to back away from its plan to slash immigration now that it’s been shown we desperately need immigrants. As someone said on Facebook (I can’t find the cite again), Simon Jolin-Barrette has discovered that his bcbg white Francophone folks are not lining up to change diapers in CHSLDs.
Uatu
Increase number of immigrants, give them jobs and make them wear masks. Karma’s working overtime…
JaneyB
Lol. Ain’t that the truth. Can’t write this stuff fast enough.
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Kate
Following our discussion on libraries: the hall at the Grande Bibliothèque is still being used as a day refuge for the homeless but that arrangement will end on June 1. After that, the library needs time to sanitize its books and its whole building, and possibly change aspects of its operations, before its proposed reopening a month later.
Faiz imam
My local library (brossard) is opening next week. The process will be pretty convoluted though.
You have to call or order books online, and after a few days they’ll call you back to tell you they have it prepared. Then you’ll go and they’ll hand it to you in a safe way at the front. No entering inside.
And when you return the books, they will be quarantined for 72 hours.
Kate
City libraries had been branching out into lending musical instruments and other objects as well as books, but the pandemic may make any form of lending less appealing, for a long time.
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