Daniel Renaud has an interview with Benoit Roberge, the police investigator who did time for having sold information to a biker gang member, who’s been out of jail now for two years but clearly has not forgotten what it was like.
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Kate
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Kate
Isn’t it time for the whole bogus St. Patrick’s Day parade queen thing to be wound down? The 196th annual parade is next month and I know I’ve kvetched about the dangerous motorized floats, but now I’m also kvetching about the selection of a queen.
Why a queen? Ireland doesn’t even have a queen, it has a president, and beauty pageants are quickly fading into the past everywhere. It’s time.
Steve Q
Maybe you should ask the organisers of the Carabean festival if the Montreal Caribean carnival Queen should be wound down. It’s time !
Kate
Steve Q, I wasn’t aware the Caribbean event also has a queen. However, that festival doesn’t take place for months yet, whereas the Irish one was in the news this weekend, where I happened to notice it.
In general I think appointing a queen is a silly and antiquated idea but it’s not my affair to read the riot act to festival organizers. I was just expressing an opinion, as I am wont to do.
Or are you implying something else?
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Kate
By offering a 10% subsidy to their transit costs, the city has coaxed nearly 2000 of its workers into using public transit instead of driving.
Joey
I don’t think that’s what’s happened. The article says that ~2,000 employees took advantage of a 10%-off offer by signing up for an annual membership. It’s somewhat implied that this represents new transit users; I suspect the vast majority already used transit and just took advantage of a windfall offer. I can’t imagine many city employees switching from driving to transit to save a measly $8.50 a month. Seems like a nice perk being oversold as a nudge to effect substantial change.
Kate
I don’t doubt you’re correct here, Joey.
I remember some talk about the city abolishing free parking for workers around its facilities. I don’t recall whether that happened, but I suspect such a stick would work better than a carrot in this instance.
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Kate
Major work is set to begin at Viau metro station two years later than originally planned. Most of the work will be underground, creating a garage for the metro system’s maintenance vehicles, but the opportunity will be taken to rebuild the unimposing little station building and add elevators. The STM’s not planning to close the station, though.
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Kate
The city’s blue collar union has turned down a reform in their union rules even though it’s been in disarray for nearly two years due to internal mismanagement.
Steve Q
In disarray for nearly two years ? Lucky them……I’ve never had a contract nor a union defending me. But no worry, i’m doing OK.
Kate
As we would have said in high school, Steve Q, whoop-de-doo for you.
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Kate
The Alouettes, conscious how little interest most Montrealers have in the team, have rebranded again. Typically, the Gazette tells us the team has a new logo but doesn’t display it on the story. A site called sportslogos.net has a good visual history of the team’s logos, up to this recent one which borrows heavily from First Nations style, and which displaces the snarling bird that always struck me as unnecessarily aggressive-looking.
Hamza
It looks…old. Like something out of the 60s/70s. Also manages to not have the city name nor the team name, which unless you’re the Yankees or something, doesn’t help build brand awareness.
What is it about our city that attracts so much bird-brained corporate marketing gimmicks?
Kate
Somewhere I read a claim that the new logo incorporates an A and an M, but you have to squint to see it.
> What is it about our city that attracts so much bird-brained corporate marketing gimmicks?
A lot of bird-brained marketing departments in our universities?
Ian
Maybe I’m being obtuse but all the logos have a beginning and end date except the 1986 version, making it seem like there was no logo 1982-85 at which point they switched back to the old logo then the following year went back to having no logo until 1996.
FWIW I don’t see the A in the new logo at all but in any case the only team in the CFL that writes out its full name in the logo is the Ti-Cats and none of them have the city name so that’s kind of a weird criticism of the new Als logo.
dhomas
The team was named the Montreal Concordes from 82 to 85, under different ownership as the original team had folded. In 86, they tried to rebrand back to the Alouettes before folding again. They came back to Montreal in 96 via a move of the Baltimore Stallions franchise (yes, there were briefly American teams in the Canadian Football League). So Montreal was without a CFL team for almost 10 years.
Ian
Ah cool I was worried I was just being daft – thanks for the history, I didn’t know about the gap years.
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Kate
Media are reporting on the yearly camp out for school places that has become traditional for some west end anglo schools. Even Radio-Canada has a report.
Ian
That’s all very nice but the reality is that there are Anglo schools with low enrollment. It’s only the most desirable schools that have lineups.
The first come first served method still being used is kind of weird though. FACE hasn’t had lineups for many years now, but some of my friends when I was in university some 30 odd years ago used to be paid by parents to camp out in front of FACE like the scalpers used to do in front of the forum. Perhaps unsurprisingly the scalper campers and the school campers were often the same seedy weirdos which must have been an extra joy for those parents that decided to camp out themselves.Joey
Mike Cohen is back!
“It’s the greatest form of flattery,” Cohen said. “We have been asked: ‘Can’t you do something for the parents and let them inside the school for the weekend?’ People have to understand our registration is Monday morning. We don’t advertise that people have to sleep on the street. We simply say for the whole system, that’s when registration begins. There happens to be a growing number of schools that are extremely popular, and parents know that if they go sleep outside, there’s an honour system and that will be a way for them to get into the school. We don’t discourage it, but we don’t promote it.”
Why not just run a lottery?
Michael Black
I’ve always thought that while the end goal of getting a place is real, some parents like the idea of reliving their youth when they’d wait in line to get concert tickets. “I’m still cool.” But now that they are parents, somehow it’s seen as some horrible experience. Though, once someone gets in line, it kind of forces others to do so.
Another aspect is that it may give more value to the schools. I used to line up on boxing day at Sam the Record Man, because the deals were worthwhile. The line made sense, it was a small space. Eventually the deals were no longer worth the effort.
But other stores adopted the practice, and some of that seemed more about hype, a line makes the store seem more desirable. So the libe became promotion, people passing by will think the deslsxafe really good, and get in line.
So the line at the schools amplify whatever was already there.
Michael
jeather
The specific schools with lines are, in fact, oversubscribed. So you wait in line or your kid gets bussed to whatever school has space, and then moved around as needed because they are lowest priority once they are out of their catchment area. It’s a pretty shitty system, and it screws over parents who can’t wait in line, but I am not sure what you think parents who want their kids in a local school should do. (Many French schools are also oversubscribed, though I don’t know if the ones in NDG are.)
I don’t get why they are doing this dumb Coronation annex school plan instead of the earlier plan of let Coronation be a new school.
Mark Côté
I believe most, if not all, the CSDM schools in NDG are also overcrowded: https://montrealgazette.com/news/new-ecole-sainte-catherine-de-sienne-wont-solve-overcrowding-at-n-d-g-schools (article is from 2017 but I don’t believe the situation is any better now)
Kevin
There are three elementary schools in NDG debating over what to do with the former St.Ignatius of Loyola.
It is easier and cheaper, administratively, for one of the schools to make it an annex.If none want it, it’ll become an independent school.
jeather
The initial plan was for a new school. That was shot down, apparently by the other schools, and now one of them will get it as a second campus (K-2, 3-6).
Seems odd to me — easier to have 4 K-6 than to split up siblings.
dhomas
The schools which are oversubscribed at the EMSB are generally those offering a full French immersion program. Not all of them do; some offer a bilingual program and “English Core”. The three listed in the articles are all French immersion schools, making them desirable to parents. Royal Vale has the extra advantage of offering a Hebrew studies program for an additional 1000$/year (this price may have changed as my info is a couple of years old). This is a bargain compared to private schools which are in the $8k/year (or more!) range. Furthermore, students eligible for English education can choose any school they want, given availability (i.e. you are not restricted to sending your child to a school in your immediate vicinity). The priority goes 1) siblings, 2) local students, 3) everyone else. Source: my wife and sister both teach at the EMSB.
That said, the whole camping out thing is ridiculous. Can’t they just put up a website where you can register online, then have a lottery? Seems like a more sensible option.
Since that’s not the case, I’m right now (at close to 3 in the morning) getting ready to go register my kid for kindergarten. The school I want has about 50 spots available, so I didn’t feel the need to camp out all weekend, but still, you can never be too sure.
Kevin
The hilarious bit is that programs at one school are often open to all. For instance, children at Wilingdon head over to Royal Vale once a week to go rock climbing…
jeather
Right, Hampstead school, which is neither bilingual nor immersion, has lots of room (though my understanding is that it set up especially for kids with special needs). I don’t know what about Elizabeth Ballantyne.
Having room for extra students to go rock climbing 2 hours a week is far from having room for more students in English and French and math every single day.
Tim S.
Mike Cohen: “It’s the greatest form of flattery”
No it’s not, it’s a sign of incompetence that you’re not meeting the needs of your population.
Also, regarding the idea of a lottery, etc., some parents were worrying that such a system could be gamed or open to interference, and knowing what I do about the EMSB I don’t blame them.Tim S.
Also, I don’t get why the EMSB doesn’t mix streams in its schools. I went to a school on the south shore that had a French Immersion stream and an English stream, and it worked fine. If anything, it made it easier for kids to switch programs when necessary without having to change schools. Surely it wouldn’t be too hard to open up a French immersion stream (seeing as that’s what’s oversubscribed) in some of less crowded English-core schools.
mare
Is this really true? People have the highly coveted right to go to English schools, a right not available to the majority of the population, not even to children of immigrants from the RoC and the US, and then they put their kids in FRENCH IMMERSION?
Can’t they just send their kids to a French school where they get the true immersive experience?
I get why kids in other provinces put their kids in immersive schools, there are no French schools and knowing more than one language is always a plus, but we don’t exactly lack the possibility to be schooled in French here.People are weird.
Michael Black
But the school boards used to be split along religious lines.
The Catholic board had both French and English schools, though maybe more of the former. The Protestsnt board was all English, I don’t remember any French schools. But late sixties, early seventies, Royalvale started offering French immersion, everything in French. So it became a destination school, rather than local. I know it felt like a lot of kids disappeared in grade 7, only to show up the next year, this is 1972. They did a year of immersion, then back to “regular” high school, and it seemed like the kids in grade 7 all came from the other local elementary school.
One good reason for this is that it keeps that right to English schools. If they’d gone to a “French school” maybe their children would have lost access, I’m not sure.
Michael
Tim S.
mare: lots of reasons. But the two most important ones (at least for my family) are 1) that French and English teaching cultures are somewhat different, and if you prefer the English style, French immersion in an English school allows you to get the best of both worlds (ideally). Just as an example, from what I gather anecdotally, English schools are much more open to parental involvement, if that’s your thing
Secondly, in a French immersion school, even while the child learns French, you’re still part of your local anglo community, which is important to those people who actually belong to an established community. The administration is in English, so parent communication is in English too. From what I know of English speakers who are obliged to send their children to French schools for 101 reasons, not being able to communicate effectively with the teachers and administration is a major obstacle. Also, the quality of English education is likely higher.
And yes, signing your children up to the EMSB means their kids will be 101 eligible, which they wouldn’t be if they went to the French system.dhomas
@mare: French immersion in grade school is for grades 1, 2, and 3. In these grades, only English class is in English. Grades 4, 5, and 6 are mixed with a little more than half the course time in English and the rest in French. I went to French grade school. I spoke better English than my English teacher and learned nothing in English class. I needed to take remedial English classes before starting at my English High School. I’d rather my children learn both languages well from their youngest years.
@Tim S.: mixed streams don’t always work so well.Outside of class, not everyone is speaking French. Students from the French immersion program have too much access to English (or rather, not speaking French). It kinda dilutes the whole immersion experience. Also, I agree with you that Michael Cohen seems to be a massive, incompetent tool.
mare
@Tim S. and dhomas: Thanks for the explanations.
Kevin
@dhomas
That is not how immersion works at the EMSB.
Immersion is 100% French in all classes in K,1,2.
They don’t get any English-language instruction until Grade 3.
They do, however, speak English in all before and after school programs and at lunch.@Tim S.
kids don’t actually have to go to an English school board. They just need to apply for and get their provincial certificate.@dhomas
The cultural gap is bigger than the language gap. French public schools are *severely* messed up, which is why Quebec is number one or number two in private school attendance.dhomas
@Kevin: you’re right, it’s K, 1, and 2 that are entirely in French. English starts in grade 3. I should have paid closer attention during the school’s open house! My bad.
Tim S.
@ Kevin: I did not know that (evidently). It wouldn’t have changed much for my family if I had, but some other folks I know might have made different choices if that process was better publicized.
jeather
If you want English AND French taught, you’re stuck in an immersion or bilingual (week all English, week all French) school, because the French schools teach very little English. (You don’t lose your eligibility if you go to a French school, though, so you can still pass it on to siblings/children.)
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Kate
The Centre d’Histoire has a nice piece this weekend on a 1930 service station in Rosemont and its owners.
Gabriel Deschambault is posting again on the Plateau history blog, this weekend with a look at the relics of De Lorimier Village.
Ephraim 08:33 on 2019-02-04 Permalink
As I have said before, the information in those computers should have better security and tracking. (It runs under the privacy act, only those who need to know should be able to look at the file.) Opening a file should have clear tracking. Opening a file that you shouldn’t need, should require permission (physical authorization, a password and a scan of a physical card) from your supervisor and his/her realization that they are taking responsibility by opening the file. Just the fact that your name appears on the file (on screen) indicating your name and the time you opened the file, would clearly signal to most people their responsibility and the tracking. If you are in a file that you shouldn’t be in… questions should start to be asked. The fact that he got away with this for so long is a clear indication of a failure on the side of the police force, not just Roberge.
Kate 08:04 on 2019-02-05 Permalink
That could be made to sound bureaucratically good, Ephraim, but it’s not the head honchos in the police service who are the source of information. It’s the guys collecting it. And doing an investigation isn’t a question merely of information, but of instinct. Anyone who’s done even the lightest research knows how you hop from one item to another as you follow an insight or a line of investigation. Finding yourself constantly blocked would be massively counterproductive. You need to see reports from colleagues working on the same files.
This is local police work, not high government stuff with levels of security.