Plaza St-Hubert to be a shared street
Plaza St-Hubert, which has been under heavy reconstruction for most of a year, will be reborn as a shared street with a bike lane, wider sidewalks and cars held to 20 km/h.
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Bill Binns 09:00 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
Well that’s the end of that. I guess they can drop the “plaza” designation since a street with sidewalks, cars and a bike lane is pretty much any ordinary street in the city.
Kate 09:07 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
Actually, I think it’s the other way around. The only thing that made that street a “plaza” rather than an ordinary shopping street was the glass awnings. Now they’re bringing back awnings in a new style, but also making the street more appealing for pedestrians. It’s going to be too late for some of the more marginal businesses – that construction site has taken a long time and made it tricky getting around there, plus there’s all the unrelated excavation around Jean-Talon metro nearby – but it’s an important experiment in how people respond when motor traffic is not the most important thing on a commercial street.
Bill Binns 09:40 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
Woops, I was confused. I was thinking of Plaza St Albert. To my eye St Hubert is looking better than it has in previous years even with the construction. At least that’s the case with the stretch between the McDonald’s and the Lozeau photography store. There is at least some diversity in the offerings to break up the (still excessive) cookie cutter bargain basement wedding dress outlets. The northern stretch that is badly torn up now is a wreck with lots of vacant stores but I’m not familiar with what that area looked like before the construction. I never had a reason to go up there until the SQDC opened.
The changes in the article sound good although it will all be dependent on enforcement. The idea that bicyclists will yield to pedestrians is laughable unless the cops are there doing something about it. Same for the 20kph speed limit for cars. I don’t see anything about parking either. Pedestrians may have the right to cross anywhere they like but currently there is two impenetrable walls of cars that prevent that for long stretches.
Please enjoy this streetview photo I just found of a city construction worker with an “Omerta” tattoo on St Albert giving the finger to the Google maps car.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.515864,-73.5709387,3a,37.3y,110.69h,80.17t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sPvFOMtdwIV8_Hl-2AIuT0g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPvFOMtdwIV8_Hl-2AIuT0g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D100.732285%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
Kate 10:00 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
I think you mean Prince Arthur? You threw me there for a minute talking about Plaza St‑Albert.
steph 10:09 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
I’ve NEVER heard of plaza St-Albert either.
Kate 10:16 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
Sounds like Bill has had an early start to his long weekend 🙂
dwgs 14:52 on 2019-06-29 Permalink
Bill just got back from the SQDC up on St. Herb Alpert.
Kate 08:31 on 2019-06-30 Permalink
🙂 dwgs
Jonathan 08:41 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
I cycle daily, and see many cyclists yielding to pedestrians at stops. More than cyclists not yielding, I see cars not yielding, thinking that if the pedestrian is starting the cross from the opposite lane, then it gives them enough time to pass through before they reach the car driver’s lane.