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  • Kate 09:50 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

    Tuesday we saw a report on how unhealthy it is for workers in the city’s recycling facility, where bacteria breed in the organic remnants in the materials they are sorting.

    Wednesday, Frantz Benjamin, MNA for the district, says he’s concerned the facility may be unhealthy for people nearby as well, and he wants tests made of the air quality around the place.

    There’s a certain irony here, because the facility is located at Papineau and the Met, where the air quality is never going to be exactly stellar. But if you add bacterial contamination on top of car exhaust, you might well end up with a nasty soup. Tests should be made.

    And if it’s bad? Maybe it’s time we separated our recycling, as people do in Europe. No reason paper, glass and metal should all be put out together. Maybe there should also be a campaign to get people to wash and rinse jars, bottles and cans before putting them out.

    • Ian 10:14 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      Even in Ontario you are expected to separate your recycling, and wash it out. In Toronto you face fines if you don’t.

      Thing is, I see the recycling trucks on my street every week and they are just dumping the bags together in a regular compactor style garbage truck. I am pretty sure almost none of that is being recycled. When I worked on a recycling truck in Hamilton, Ontario, our trucks had separate compartments – only paper waste had a compactor.

      I called 311 last week because on my street the truck went over a speed bump too fast and spilled an insane amount of broken glass, enough to go from one edge of the street to the other – my street has 2 bike paths, parking, and a single lane for driving – that’s a lot of glass. If the glass is that crushed up, nobody is going to be sorting through it just wearing latex gloves as in the photo accompanying the first story there. Worker’s comp wouldn’t allow it even in a non-union facility.

    • Ian 10:22 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      …also worth noting, when I worked on a recycling truck, we had a broom, dustpan, and pail on each truck – if you spilled anything you were expected to stop and go clean it up, unlike garbage and recycling workers here who are total cowboys and leave garbage everywhere in their wake.

    • EmilyG 10:27 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      I seem to remember that recycling used to be required to be separated here in Montreal (or at least the Pierrefonds area?) This would’ve been around 1993 or so when the program was implemented and we had the little blue boxes.

    • Kate 10:44 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      When the green plastic boxes first came in, in the Plateau, they had a divider. Paper went in one side, metal and glass on the other. But that was phased out ages ago. I still have the box and the loose divider somewhere.

    • Michael Black 10:58 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      Outremont had door to door newspaper collection about 1978, and Westmount followed shortly after. As I recall someone like Tooker Gomberg took the initiative, so there was some distance from municipal services, but I can’t remember how much. Both initiatives counted on selling the newspapers to pay for truck rental and gas, and likely paying people to ride the trucks.

      I can’t remember when Westmount morphed into collecting more than newspapers,but likely when Montreal did, providing the infrastructure to deal with the other items.

      As I’ve said, Montreal started with those green bells in neighborhoods, you were expected to carry your recyc!ing to those, with sparate bells for newspapers, cans and bottles.

      Then door to door recycling began, I can’t remember if the bells showed that people were ready for recycling, or people demanded a simpler process.

      Certainly in Westmount you were supposed to separate things, and you were xpected to tie newspapers in bundles. That was the case when just newspaper was collected, and even after cans and bottles were added.

      At some point, you could recycle glossy paper, and they announced you didn’t need to separate things, but I can’t remember exact timeline.


    • walkerp 09:46 on 2019-08-01 Permalink

      Don’t even get me started. I suspect a big part of it is organized crime, but garbage collection here (and in the east coast in general) is just barbaric. The way it should work is that each household or buliding gets a single bin for each type of waste product (paper, plastic, glass, organics and landfill, etc.) and the size of those bins depend on the size of the building. If you go over, the amount in the bin, you have to buy special bags at a significant cost. The exception here is organics, where the bags would be free.

      The culture here at every level is still “the city should take it out of my sight and I shouldn’t have to do any work” and the third-world garbage operators have the same mentality “pick it up as fast as we can and get rid of it”. Things are slowly changing, but when you come back to Montreal from the west coast, frankly, it’s embarrassing to see how the city looks on garbage day (and for several days after as the detritus blows around and slowly gets cleaned up).

  • Kate 09:19 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

    Greenpeace activists have installed artwork with a climate theme on the metal elements at Robert-Bourassa* and La Gauchetière.

    *I still have trouble with this one.

    • Benoit 09:45 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      These metals elements have been abandoned for years. Originally there were colorful banners inside them, and they were illuminated at night. Good thing to see them being put to good use!

    • Ginger Baker 12:19 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      yeah wait – what happened to them banners and what all? it was like a pastiche of elements from various world flags…

    • SMD 12:21 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      That is some really nice artwork. A definite improvement.

    • CE 17:01 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

      I saw them this afternoon. They looked nice.

    • MarcG 07:52 on 2019-08-01 Permalink

      We’re going to have the most beautiful and aware extinction in the universe!

    • Ian 12:21 on 2019-08-02 Permalink

      Great, more manufactured crap that’s going to end up in a landfill. This is not a valuable action or PSA, everyone here is well aware of our impending death as a species. A few gaudy banners aren’t going to fix it.

  • Kate 09:16 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

    The public health department says it hasn’t detected a bump in deaths due to the hot days we’ve had so far this summer.

    • Kate 08:57 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

      Supporters of Jarry Park hope to stop a plan to put a roof on the park’s tennis stadium, which would make the park little more than a front lawn for a venue. Michel Lafleur, who heads Les Amis du Parc Jarry, says “We believe that the development of event facilities in a public park owned by taxpayers is a quality of life issue” and he’s right. There’s a petition against it.

      I can’t even pretend to be objective on this. That park is of inestimable value to both the Park Ex and Villeray sides of the track, where people mostly don’t have back yards of their own. The city shouldn’t be shilling out the park more than it already is.

      • JP 09:44 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

        Agreed. When we were kids, we lived in Parc Ex, and we often went over to Jarry Park in the spring and summer. It was nice to have a big park to take walks and play. I have so many memories from there. As you say, it’s important to have a park like that nearby for people who mostly live in apartments and don’t have backyards of their own. I actually do attend the tennis events at the Rogers Cup and enjoy it, but I do hope they don’t go ahead with the roof.

      • Joey 10:10 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

        I’m skeptical that the only thing keeping the tennis stadium from becoming a major event site (i.e., 10+ non-tennis events per year drawing 1000+ attendees) is the lack of a roof. Though I think I went to a show on the site about 20 years ago (it was held indoors), I can’t say I’ve seen more than a dozen ads for events not affiliated with the tennis tournament over the years. Hard to imagine Jarry Park becoming a bustling concert venue, roof or not. While it’s a huge waste of taxpayer money, I suspect the actual impact on the rest of the park will be basically nil – hardly turning it into “a front lawn for a venue.” Jarry Park might be the most vibrant space in Montreal; adding a roof to an existing adjacent tennis stadium won’t change that.

      • ProposMontreal 12:16 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

        I work in the event industry and I often have events in the insides practice portions of the stadium. So there is events and yes a roof would help. That being said I understand that a park like Jarry is more than an assets for the neighbourhood and should not be tempered with more than it is currently. I didn’t see sketches or plans yet for the roof so I’m wondering how a roof over an existing building will affect the park itself?

        I’m a bit bias since I would welcome a roof, but I’m open to change my mind.

      • Mr.Chinaski 22:40 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

        I went to see Bob Dylan there in 1997! Back then it was called Stade DuMaurier, and it was the live debut of Blind Willie McTell. My weirdest Dylan show.

      • CE 08:24 on 2019-08-01 Permalink

        Tennis Canada is saying they need the roof to make the tournament more profitable. If it’s such a good investment, why do they need the government to pay for it? I’m sure a bank or a wealthy tennis loving investor would love to put some money into a roof that’s so certain to provide a good return.

      • EmilyG 21:17 on 2019-08-01 Permalink

        Yeah. When I lived in Villeray, I’d call the park my backyard.

    • Kate 00:07 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

      The first tracks for the REM were laid this week recently and it seems inevitable they’re near the Dix30.

      • MarcG 07:51 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

        In the video they say “a month and a half ago workers installed these rails, the first ones on the new REM electric train system” – I am confused.

      • Kate 08:40 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

        Item just says “recently” so it’s not clear.

    • Kate 00:05 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

      Work on the heralded Place des Montréalaises is to begin next year.

      • Kate 00:03 on 2019-07-31 Permalink | Reply  

        The SPVM say they have written 75 tickets to people riding ebikes, including Jump bikes.

        • dwgs 07:03 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          Yesterday morning on the de Maisonneuve bike path I was about to pull out to pass someone (I had checked behind me a few seconds earlier, no other riders close) when a woman on a Jump bike (no helmet) passed me at top speed, no sound, no warning. I called out to her and told her that she should let people know when she was overtaking and she flashed me a peace sign. A few blocks later she pulled out and passed someone in front of me but stayed in the oncoming lane. Another woman coming the other way had to lock up her brakes and go to the kerb to avoid a head on collision. Jump biker didn’t apologize, just made a lame excuse and carried on. I gave her hell for the next block and pointed out that if she had such poor basic biking skills she definitely shouldn’t be riding at top speed on a Jump bike. She again wished me peace and told me I was uptight and I should relax.

        • Kate 09:24 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          See, this is why I don’t think powered vehicles should be on bike paths at all. It disrupts the flow.

        • meezly 09:52 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          I’m ok with pedal-assist bikes as long as they stay under 25 kph – it’s just the type of riders that use Jump bikes. I’ve been seeing a big increase of electric mopeds riders using bike lanes to save time. I had thought there was a by-law about that in 2014 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=16&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjmqIS4pN_jAhXsm-AKHTRZDcgQFjAPegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmontrealgazette.com%2Fnews%2Flocal-news%2Fmontreal-bike-paths-whos-allowed-on-whos-not&usg=AOvVaw0tTxXGrMOsmiUNzWtVkHfi). Whatever happened to that by-law? I see Velo Quebec is still pushing the city to ban electric motorized mopeds on bike paths as they can go up to 70 kph. Some dude in a suit on his moped was going at least 35 kph to pass cyclists on a bike lane. I would really like the SPVM to fine his ass.

        • Blork 10:09 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          This is why we can’t have nice things. There are too many stupid people who end up ruining it for everyone. Personally, I’m a big fan of pedal-assist ebikes. But they do have the potential to go fast; even if the pedal assist tops out at 25kph, some idiots on pedal assist bikes will go 25kph on hills where everyone else is struggling along at 15. Or they race along at 25 through congested bike lanes, just because they can.

          Personally, I think Jump bikes and similar “shared” electric vehicles should top out at about 17, because they are used by so many casual users who don’t really know how to control them. But that’s not going to happen, and the result will inevitably be some kind of crackdown that will affect everyone, including people who use these things safely.

        • Blork 10:19 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          Another thing: the Jump rider that dwgs describes is exactly the kind of reckless idiot who should be banned from using Bixis and Jumps and all of those vehicles. Nothing burns me more than when you call someone out for being reckless and dangerous and they tell you to “relax.” (I imagine this is what, proverbially, women feel like when men tell them they’re “overreacting.”)

          The worst part is that its just a matter of time before that woman blows through a stop sign at top speed and gets hit by a car going perpendicularly. She, and everyone else, will blame the car driver.

        • Ian 10:25 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          I can’t help but wonder if the speeding on these new rental electric bikes is an emergent property of the fact that you are charged by the minute.

        • Blork 11:19 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          Interesting point, but I think the stronger influence is simply the thrillz. (Seriously, if you’ve never ridden a pedal-assist bike, the first time you get on one it is loads of fun and a bit thrilliing.)

        • js 12:12 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          Pedal-assisted e-bike use should be restricted to the elderly and the disabled with mobility issues. All others should be shamed as the lazy weak-legged menaces that they are. Montreal isn’t San Francisco – it’s mostly flat, and legit Montrealers know how to avoid or mitigate hills by being intimately familiar with the city and choosing appropriate routes.

        • meezly 13:07 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          For over 15 years, I’ve been commuting to work on my human-powered bicycle, every year from March to December. I’m an able-bodied and competent enough cyclist, but not terribly athletic. The e-bike has been a game changer for me now that I’m older (not elderly yet), a parent and a non-motorized vehicle owner. A recent example: I was able to e-bike home (Plateau) from work (Griffintown) which involved two significant hills, pick up the kid from school, greet the babysitter at home, then e-bike back to Little Burgundy for a work function within a decent time, and without being in a hot, sweaty mess which would’ve required a clothing change had I used a regular bike. Do I feel ashamed? No. I have a green option of getting across the city in an efficient manner. I read that e-bikes are becoming a more popular choice for older women to get around – should they too be shamed into being lazy, weak-legged menaces? Electric assisted wheeling has really democratized transportation, so we should be open to any new modes that do not require fossil fuels. But the road & bike lane infrastructure and by-laws does need a big overhaul to meet these demands.

        • John B 13:29 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          This guy’s Twitter has brought me around to meezly’s point of view over the past year-ish. E-bikes are a green option for getting around that make it possible to live a full, but less sweaty, life in a city.

          Maybe in addition to a speed cap, we should cap the amount of boost power. For example, if e-bikes were capped at 100 watts of assistance, or 25km/h, (whichever happens first), it would prevent, (or at least reduce the potential for), abuse, while still letting people get around easily. It’s pretty complicated and I’m not sure how enforceable it would be, though.

        • Ephraim 13:35 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          Blork…. that’s how I feel when a bicycle whizzes by me on the sidewalk. Even more so, when I used to have to walk with a cane.

        • Blork 13:58 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          “Pedal-assisted e-bike use should be restricted to the elderly and the disabled with mobility issues. All others should be shamed as the lazy weak-legged menaces that they are.”

          That is literally the stupidest comment I’ve seen on this blog in months.

        • dwgs 14:40 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          To be clear, I have nothing against e-bikes, they are a great boon to some. My beef is with self centred idiots who believe that the sun shines out of their collective ass. Ride / walk / drive with an awareness of the other people around you.

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        • Chris 21:23 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          js, I couldn’t disagree more. You shouldn’t be comparing Jump riders to cyclists, but to motorists. Motorists are way lazier, right? So if we can get motorists to switch to ebikes, so much the better. A Jump bike requires *way* less energy to both make and operate. They should be encouraged. For these same reasons, we should *not* limit their speed. If it’s ok for cars to go 50 kph, then it’s ok for Jump. There’s no requirement for Jumps to be on bikeways, they can use the road too, just like cyclists. We probably should have a max speed on bikeways though, regardless of bike type. We should change the highway code to allow (at least fast) bikes to “take the lane” and to ride side-by-side.

        • Ant6n 22:07 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

          I feel like in Europe all E-bikes top out at 25kph. Everything above that is a motorbike. Those kind of E-bikes can be very effective, they double or triple most people’s effective radius for commuting, meaning many more car trips could be replaced.

          There should simply be regulation that says that an electric assist bicycle (up to 25kph) is a bicycle, everything above is a motorcycle.

      • Kate 23:55 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

        A dépanneur worker was stabbed Tuesday night in Montreal North, and a suspect is already in custody.

        • Kate 23:53 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

          CBC has some advice on spotting fraudulent apartment postings.

          • Kate 23:52 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

            Radio-Canada looks at a new style of social housing in northern St-Michel.

            • Kate 11:17 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

              TVA has a brief look at five construction projects that will change the city.

              • Ginger Baker 12:37 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Odd they didn’t mention the super secret space laser being retrofitted into the dome of the Oratory…

                Typical liberal media!

              • Tim F 18:47 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                I’d have thought the REM would come before the Bellechasse centre.

              • Faiz Imam 20:09 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                I believe the framing of the article is specifically projects that have been launched in 2019. Rem started last year.

                Anyways. I was interested to read that the royal mount folks need to present amendments by this fall. Good to know there is still room to make the project less horrible.

                I expect they’ll add some amount of residential, which will be great. The more the better. But what would really be helpful would be key social infrastructure. Community centers, schools, athletics stuff that isn’t a private gyms,etc.

                Basically, anything they can do to make it more than a glorified luxury shopping mall would be great.

              • Ant6n 23:10 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                It takes a special kind of reality distortion field to take a shit project, add the unrealistic hope for some, any improvements, and start praising that same shit project based on that wishful thinking already. I guess it’s a kind of subtle pro-developer shilling/PR (are they paying you yet or are you still doing this work for free).

              • dwgs 07:05 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Always the ad hominem…

              • Kate 09:27 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                To be fair, dwgs, Faiz Imam has a proven track record of wanting to believe the very best of any development, be it the REM or something like Royalmount.

                Faiz Imam, I have seen zero indication that Carbonleo is community-minded, nor that they are likely to welcome amendments of the type you describe. Carbonleo has one interest: a buck. Anything they concede will have to be forced on them by the city.

              • ant6n 10:42 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Okay fine, let’s put it another way: It’s ridiculous to claim that the Royalmount is the addition of an apartment unit away from being a great project.

              • Faiz Imam 11:33 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Dude, as usual you misrepresent me and take the least charitable interpretation of my words.

                I literally said “there is room to make it less horrible”

                Which is my way of saying the project sucks but there might be ways to put lipstick on the pig.

                Then I make an additional point of what could be added to actually make it good.

                In hindsight, I should have had a last line that said “but honestly given the owners, no way any real improvements will happen’

                That might have made my position more clear.

                Kate: I totally agree with you that the bottom line is the only line. But as we are seeing with the condo boom city wide, as well as the death of physical retail and many forms of shopping, it’s totally not Clear that the best money is in a classical shopping mall.

                If you follow global retail development trends, the pattern is clearly towards mega projects with mixed use faux downtowns with a ton of luxury residential next to luxury retail and experiences.

                The solar uniquartier in Brossard for example exemplifies this larger trend. And old suburbs all over North America are seeing a ton of them pop up.

                My point is that Royalmount is the weird one here. They might be leaving a ton of money on the table by not having a strong residential component.

                Also, note that residental doesn’t mean good. As you say we should not expect any sort of social infrastructure.

                My expectation is that we will get griffintown 2.0. That’s probably the best we can hope for and I’ll be glad if that happens as opposed to the nonsense planned at the moment.

            • Kate 11:16 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

              We have a thunderstorm watch throughout the St Lawrence valley Tuesday, including Montreal, on top of the heat warning we already had.

              • Ian 10:18 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                So much for that. The skies were green, the wind was making the big trees creak… then nothing.

                At least it’s a little bit cooler today.

              • Kate 10:56 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Wow. Up here in Villeray it bucketed down, in several passes!

              • CE 18:42 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                I was fearing the rain as I knew I would have to bike all over the city yesterday. Luckily, I didn’t get hit by it at all despite seeing that it must have rained heavily in different neighbourhoods when I wasn’t in them.

              • Ian 08:01 on 2019-08-01 Permalink

                Well I guess that’s why it cooled down even if it barely rained in Mile End… I guess instead of the one massive rainstorm that goes on for a couple of days that was predicted we got a bunch of mini storms floating through. My garden could have used the rain, and Jeanne Mance park was downright crunchy to walk in yesterday.

            • Kate 11:08 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

              A few dozen Montrealers jumped into the river Tuesday morning for the 15th Grand Splash, including a few elected officials but not, as last year, the mayor.

              • jo 11:10 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                whats the purpose of this website? you just copy what is in the news… waste of time

              • Kate 11:13 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                You know, you’re right. Thanks!

              • Marco 12:33 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Thanks for the website and all you do Kate.

              • SMD 12:51 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Kate, your links and opinions are as refreshing as this morning’s jump in the river. Don’t ever change!

              • DeWolf 12:52 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                I love this blog. Thanks for curating local news in an interesting way, Kate.

              • Michael Black 13:01 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                I was certainly glad that whiever added a comment the other day about the Grand Splash did so. That sort of announcement often doesn’t propagate well, so we only read about it after the fact.

                There’s a brief video at the CBC site, and Kate is credited, or maybe just for tye tweet, so in this case, it may be fresh news followed by others.

                Maybe next year I’ll attend. It can’t be too dangerous if they wear life jackets.


              • Jack 13:07 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Thanks Kate, bye jo.

              • Kate 13:11 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Oh guys! Guys! Thank you!

              • ant6n 14:10 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                On another meta note, would you consider removing the ads and adding a Patreon (or alternative?) instead. Browsing this site without adblocker has become rather scary, and I’d rather directly support with money rather than indirectly with eyeballs and personal data.

              • Kate 14:12 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                ant6n, I tell you what. I’m halfway to a Google payment now. When I hit that number I will take them down and do Patreon. It’ll be another couple of months but I tend to agree with you – the ads do detract.

              • Daniel 14:17 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                So glad you do this and so grateful for this blog. 🙂

              • dwgs 14:35 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Thanks for all you do Kate. Jo, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

              • meezly 14:51 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                If this is a waste of time, then move along. I like having a local news aggregator with a personal touch 🙂

              • Mitch Davis 14:58 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                I adore this site, and visit it daily. The sorry state of Montreal media has it so that local news stories often only appear at a single outlet while being ignored at the others. Were it not for this blog, I’d be missing tons of news. I consider Kate’s work to be invaluable, to put it mildly.

              • Ginger Baker 15:26 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Kate has inspired me to kickstart a new local media endeavour

                Jo inspires nothing.

                Be like Kate

                Ban Jo to Drummonville

              • Raymond Lutz 15:53 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                EH! Ginger, there’s at least one MtlCityWeblog reader who’s living in Drummondville! Stay classy… 😎

              • walkerp 17:49 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                I would be a patreon backer to help remove the ads.

              • JP 00:12 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                I really enjoy this site too. Thanks Kate. Go to hell, Jo!

              • Ian 09:12 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                I guess Jo doesn’t understand or appreciate what an aggregate is for… their loss. I would also support bus patreon. I would also volunteer to make the site mobile friendly…

              • Mo 16:26 on 2019-08-01 Permalink

                Thank you Kate for the all the work you put into this blog over the years.

            • Kate 10:57 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

              It isn’t surprising that in the city recycling centre the air is contaminated and workers easily get respiratory illnesses. Food remnants in containers are an excellent growth medium for bacteria, especially in this weather – and the status of this work means workers often can’t afford time off, or don’t want to tell their bosses they’re sick.

              • Douglas 16:46 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                This is why China stop accepting all our recycling garbage.

              • Ian 09:13 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Let’s get real for a second, China only stopped accepting our recyclables because it was no longer profitable. Life is cheap in China’s industrial zones.

            • Kate 09:54 on 2019-07-30 Permalink | Reply  

              The new Turcot is already covered in graffiti, not surprisingly.

              • Max 10:47 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                That’s a misleading headline. It’s a problem with one (highly visible, I admit) retaining wall. The rest of the interchange is pretty clean. So far.

              • Kate 11:07 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Thanks for the report. Not driving, it’s a part of town I don’t get to look at.

              • Ginger Baker 12:39 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Yeah but it’s always been this way and both sides are at fault… we rarely hear about all the graffiti covered in highway interchange retaining walls, more evidence of the liberal media bias.

              • Ephraim 17:29 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Is it graffiti or is it tagging? We have some beautiful graffiti murals around St. Lawrence… and some horrible tagging on top of them.

              • Max 19:54 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Dude, you only need a quick look to come to a logical conclusion. Retards whose mummies didn’t love them enough are pissing all over the escarpment below the MUCH. There is nothing artistic about that.

              • Ian 21:03 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Oh no, our pristine concrete canyons are being ruined. /s

              • Chris 22:24 on 2019-07-30 Permalink

                Ephraim, tagging *is* (a kind of) graffiti. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti#Tagging

                If people keep painting them, get some of them together to draw something nice.

              • Uatu 06:21 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Hopefully they will plant trees or shrubs to hide the wall. Probably the easiest way to discourage unwanted scribbling…

              • Jonathan 09:13 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                I would like to request that Max’s offensive comment be taken down.

              • Max 23:06 on 2019-07-31 Permalink

                Did my comment hit a little too close to home, Jonathan? Lol. If you’re one of the needy little tagger pukes defacing our fair city, you’re the one that should be taken down.

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