Fantastic. Now take the one down off the mount. In my fantasy world, the cross there is replaced by an observatory with a super powered telescope. And since I’m fantasizing, the funicular is rebuilt too.
School names bug me. Only in Quebec can you be told to remove your hijab or kippa to teach at the strictly nondenominational École Christ-Roi or one of the many named after a saint (see the lengthy list here).
But symbolism aside, I continue to be outraged in a quiet sort of way that in the ethics-and-religion classes the students never get to hear about living a moral and upstanding life with no religion. Yes, as part of a well-rounded education you need to learn something about the beliefs of religious people as part of their cultures, but you also need to understand that many people get by nicely without any.
It would actually make a lot of sense to get rid of them considering the traditional obsession with Elvis here. Why go all the way to Vegas when you could get an Elvis wedding in Montreal?
Why Vegas, you can go to Lancaster, Ottawa or Burlington and get married right away. (NY has a 24 hour waiting period)
Imagine you live in Boston and want to do a destination wedding in Montreal… so you have to be here 21 days in advance? Get someone to plan to register you 21 days in advance? It’s stupid. You can marry anywhere else in North America faster. And in some places, the waiting period only applies to locals. I think the longest wait time other than Quebec is 5 or 7 days.
Ephraim, I can see why, as an innkeeper, you’d like this to change, but do you really think it’s a great idea for people to marry without thinking about it for at least 21 days?
Kate… but you can drive 30 minutes and do it NOW. What difference does it make? None. But even so… I object to the fact that it’s based on religion in any case… I’m not Catholic, why should I have to live by a Catholic norm. If we are secular, then any law based entirely on religion should die. Which is one of the reasons that I object to anti-abortion laws… all the reasoning is religious. No… we are supposedly “secular” well… then the banns have to go. Make the wait nothing, make it 24 hours, make it 36 hours, make it 100 hours and 3 lottery tickets… but have a real reason behind it and a way to enforce it… but we can’t enforce it, you can buy a bus ticket to Ottawa and have it done the same day. It’s a stupid unenforceable hurdle and it’s based on nothing but religion.
There are so many things that maybe we should have people think twice about… performing in porn movies, getting a tattoo, getting pierced, voting Conservative, having unprotected sex, getting pregnant, buying a lottery tickets… and yet they are all things that you can do within a minute of walking in the door. Why should we decide to be the moral conscious of people for this matter and not others. Shall we require people to wait 21 days before they can have sex? Can you imagine Grindr or Tinder with a 21 day waiting period?
jeather 21:26 on 2019-07-09 Permalink
I guess it’s more important to stop teachers wearing hijabs than to keep the crucifix.
david100 00:54 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
Fantastic. Now take the one down off the mount. In my fantasy world, the cross there is replaced by an observatory with a super powered telescope. And since I’m fantasizing, the funicular is rebuilt too.
Blork 11:21 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
Now re-write the various Quebec laws and statutes. For example, look how much weight is given to the church in the Quebec Burial Act: http://legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/ShowDoc/cs/I-11
Ephraim 11:51 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
Blork… the banns, the cross on the flag, and the cross on the mountain, to name just a few…
Kate 12:53 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
School names bug me. Only in Quebec can you be told to remove your hijab or kippa to teach at the strictly nondenominational École Christ-Roi or one of the many named after a saint (see the lengthy list here).
But symbolism aside, I continue to be outraged in a quiet sort of way that in the ethics-and-religion classes the students never get to hear about living a moral and upstanding life with no religion. Yes, as part of a well-rounded education you need to learn something about the beliefs of religious people as part of their cultures, but you also need to understand that many people get by nicely without any.
CE 13:12 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
From your list, I’d like to know the story behind the name of École Saints-Martyrs-Canadiens
Kate 13:58 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
Your wish is my command, CE.
Ephraim 16:13 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
The banns really bug me because we are missing out on the whole elopement business… and it’s a lucrative business for many.
Kate 21:07 on 2019-07-10 Permalink
Ephraim, I finally understand your objection to the banns, which I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone else express.
Ian 13:40 on 2019-07-11 Permalink
It would actually make a lot of sense to get rid of them considering the traditional obsession with Elvis here. Why go all the way to Vegas when you could get an Elvis wedding in Montreal?
Ephraim 19:21 on 2019-07-11 Permalink
Why Vegas, you can go to Lancaster, Ottawa or Burlington and get married right away. (NY has a 24 hour waiting period)
Imagine you live in Boston and want to do a destination wedding in Montreal… so you have to be here 21 days in advance? Get someone to plan to register you 21 days in advance? It’s stupid. You can marry anywhere else in North America faster. And in some places, the waiting period only applies to locals. I think the longest wait time other than Quebec is 5 or 7 days.
Kate 22:24 on 2019-07-11 Permalink
Ephraim, I can see why, as an innkeeper, you’d like this to change, but do you really think it’s a great idea for people to marry without thinking about it for at least 21 days?
Ephraim 12:44 on 2019-07-12 Permalink
Kate… but you can drive 30 minutes and do it NOW. What difference does it make? None. But even so… I object to the fact that it’s based on religion in any case… I’m not Catholic, why should I have to live by a Catholic norm. If we are secular, then any law based entirely on religion should die. Which is one of the reasons that I object to anti-abortion laws… all the reasoning is religious. No… we are supposedly “secular” well… then the banns have to go. Make the wait nothing, make it 24 hours, make it 36 hours, make it 100 hours and 3 lottery tickets… but have a real reason behind it and a way to enforce it… but we can’t enforce it, you can buy a bus ticket to Ottawa and have it done the same day. It’s a stupid unenforceable hurdle and it’s based on nothing but religion.
There are so many things that maybe we should have people think twice about… performing in porn movies, getting a tattoo, getting pierced, voting Conservative, having unprotected sex, getting pregnant, buying a lottery tickets… and yet they are all things that you can do within a minute of walking in the door. Why should we decide to be the moral conscious of people for this matter and not others. Shall we require people to wait 21 days before they can have sex? Can you imagine Grindr or Tinder with a 21 day waiting period?