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  • Kate 14:13 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

    The Université de Montréal has selected a new rector, who’ll start his term June 1.

    • Kate 14:08 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

      A study finds that 17% of Montrealers admit to smoking cannabis [in the year before] legalization, a proportion that somewhat undercuts CTV’s headline that we were big fans of weed.

      Added as later edit the phrase in square brackets.

      • Bill Binns 14:17 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        It is extremely hard to believe that 83% of Montrealers got through highschool without taking a puff here and there.

      • Blork 14:44 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        Very little is said about the source or method of the study, but the number jumps to 38% for people aged 18 to 24. So that 17% likely includes a lot of older people — in the 50s and 60s, pot smoking was seen as much more degenerate than in later years, so fewer “straight” people did it or at least admitted to it.

        Maybe it also includes a lot of immigrants, who either aren’t part of Montreal’s pot-loving culture, or are reluctant to admit it (despite the legality here) because of how it was seen “back home.”

        There are also probably a lot of suburban tête carrée types who have only smoked pot while off at some convention where the wild times also involves strippers and whatnot so they are reluctant to admit it even to themselves, plus all the suburban hockey moms who are too busy sloshing down magnums of chardonnay to ever have time for something as stinky as pot.

        So yeah. Montreal in 360 degrees, not just the folks you see on St-Denis.

      • Mark Côté 16:15 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        The article says (at least) 17% used cannabis *in 2018*. Thus the number of Montrealers who have ever partaken must be much higher.

        However according to the Canadian Cannabis Survey 2018 22% of Canadians used cannabis that year, so I guess Montreal really is undeserving of its reputation…? Either that or these surveys are not particularly accurate.

      • Tee Owe 15:09 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        mark –
        The latter

    • Kate 10:43 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

      Mayor Plante is pressing the Quebec government to fund an extension of the orange line to Bois-Franc, obviously a logical step but bound to be an expensive one in a part of town that will never vote CAQ.

      • Spi 11:10 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        This just highlights everything that has been wrong with public transit planning in this city over the past few decades. It’s always what’s politically expedient not about improving the network and service offering. Extend the orange and finish the loop, instead of talking about 2 stations to bois-franc.

      • Faiz imam 11:50 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        “Extend the orange and finish the loop”

        actually, transit best practices are discouraging the idea of loops. they are wasteful and cause operational issues.

        The right solution is to extension to cartierville, then north west towards Highway 13.

        But your basic point is correct. this needs to happen and its bad that its getting stuck in politics.

      • ant6n 12:14 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        Loops can make alot of sense, if you have a truly circumferential line, with relatively even load along the whole line. Even though they can be operationally annyoing, they can help to reduce the load inside the loop, by allowing people to reach destinations without having to travel through the center.*

        But none of this is true for the Orange line.

        (*Note that the loop line in London was broken up due to operational considerations, but the line still forms a circle since the infrastructure hasnt changed – there’s just a transfer somewhere.)

      • Francesco 15:31 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        How do I “like“ what Ant6n just wrote? I just passed by the big hole in the ground at the corner of Thimens and Marcel-Laurin that will eventually be the above-ground edifice of the Côte-Vertu garage for the Orange Line metro; it’s about 1200 m away from the Bois-Franc Exo/REM station, and the length of an actual passenger tunnel from the end of the tail tracks at Côte-Vertu station to Bois-Franc would be less than 2 km.

      • Francesco 01:08 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        Today’s presentation by the City would suggest that the tail tracks tunnel (“l’arrière-gare”) reaches close to Poirier, making the actual tunnelling to Bois-Franc (and a bit beyond for its tail tracks) perhaps just over a kilometre.


      • Kate 10:17 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        Francesco, in fact St-Laurent’s Alan DeSousa has been saying just this for a couple of years – that the digging for the garage makes it natural to also extend the tunnel to Poirier and beyond.

      • Chris 10:42 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        Finish the loop please

      • Kate 10:53 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        Can you explain the value of the loop? Wouldn’t most passengers be getting on somewhere in Laval and coming down either the western or eastern spine of the orange line? Would many really be boarding at e.g. Sauvé and riding westward around the top to Poirier?

        The main virtue I can see in this is that the 121 bus route would be less crowded – it’s the one that bridges between the two spines of the orange line between Sauvé and Côte-Vertu. Maybe some Laval lines I don’t know.

      • Bert 14:49 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        A loop, or even a western branch in Laval will certainly encourage people on the western side of Laval, say west of the 13, possibly even Labelle to use the western arm of the metro rather than going to the Montmorency Metro or even Concorde by train. This is above and beyond simply removing cars from the 13 and the Lachapelle bridge.

        That said, hard metrics on ow much that section of the line is currently used would be enlightening.

      • Francesco 00:29 on 2020-02-29 Permalink

        To repeat: loops are only really useful if they go *all the way around* the periphery of a dense central core, so that it isn’t one-way traffic twice a day. The only place I’ve been where the loop encircles an empty-ish core (and links a true loop of extremely dense, dynamic neighbourhoods) is Tokyo with its superb Yamanote Line.

    • Kate 08:38 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

      A demonstration was held near Square Victoria on Tuesday afternoon in support of the Wet’suwet’en chiefs. TVA says the protesters never gave an itinerary to police, but they must have missed the memo saying that bylaw was struck down two years ago.

      • Chris 10:42 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        More exactly: the hereditary chiefs, since the elected chiefs support the CGL project.

        Also, an itinerary is no longer required (which the article perhaps deceptively omitted, and should not have), but even before that bylaw existed, protest organizers often informed the police anyway, either as a courtesy, to help the police protect them, to get on their good side, etc. So it’s noteworthy they chose not too, but misleading to omit the bylaw being struck down.

    • Kate 08:21 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

      Municipal court has suspended 26,000 cases because they were getting into unreasonable delays. These are all minor matters – the test case was about someone putting out their recycling at the wrong time – so it doesn’t mean there are a lot of unpunished criminals sauntering around. Basically, there are too many files for the court to keep up.

      • Ephraim 09:07 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        It’s time to rationalize some of the laws. If you can’t enforce them and can’t prove them, then stop doing them or rethink how we do it.

      • ant6n 10:32 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        @Epharim – that would probably mean more small things are decided by police offers on the spot without easy recourse.

      • Ephraim 15:05 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

        Pull out the data and start to look. But also start to be realistic about it. It’s hard to make a ticket for putting out the garbage on the wrong day stick… but even if you do, is it worth collecting the fine? The city has to send an inspector, the inspector has to go through the garbage looking for an address, collect the evidence, send a ticket, keep the evidence and be ready to present the evidence in court. And if the fine is maybe $70, does all this cover the cost of all the work? So, do we have a better solution? We can increase the fine to the point of where it actually covers the costs of the system or we can find a solution, like sending the inspector to the house with the warning and the bag in front of the door the first time. Or we could just collect it and ignore the problem. Or we could look to see if this is related to STR? Could we have a central garbage in a neighbourhood where people can drop off in case they are going away, etc. But you solve the problem by being realistic.

        It’s like speeding tickets. Even if you told every policeman in Montreal to write speeding tickets all day long, they wouldn’t even dent 1% of those speeding. The speed limit isn’t really a law, it’s a request with random tickets. Now stopping those from speeding in a school zone… important. Stopping those from speeding on the 720, not that important. (And I’ve watched police cars just zoom by on the 720 because no one keeps the 70km/h speed limit.)

        PS: well at least you manage to put the right letters together, even if they weren’t in the right order 😀

      • Kevin 11:21 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        One issue is the lack of judges and court times, and what appears to be deliberate stalling by authorities.

        It’s been normal for people trying to challenge parking tickets to get their dates pushed back three times– but only finding out after they’ve already scheduled time off work.

      • Kate 14:39 on 2020-02-27 Permalink

        I’m wondering if either we need to use technology to streamline the process, or if this story is being told now to prepare the ground for using technology that might be intrusive to streamline the process.

    • Kate 08:17 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

      Fancy houses are getting ever more expensive and real estate brokers are rubbing their hands together at the thought of all the tasty, tasty commissions.

      • Kate 08:10 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

        A man was hit and killed by a train at Dorval train station early Wednesday. I didn’t know VIA trains were running at 3 a.m.

        • Dominic 09:48 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          VIA and CN likely have erratic schedules at the moment as a result of the blockades. Might be a case of getting a train to the right starting point for a morning trip by running it overnight.

        • Chris 11:54 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          They must mean it literally. ie it was a train with VIA branding. Doesn’t mean there were any passengers. Indeed VIA hasn’t had an overnight Montreal-Toronto train for years.

      • Kate 08:06 on 2020-02-26 Permalink | Reply  

        It’s not a new trend, but the city keeps losing residents to the suburbs, although this explanation rather confusingly contrasts the migratory behaviour of immigrants with non‑immigrants in this regard.

        • Ephraim 09:13 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          How is the city supposed to increase residents when we aren’t building enough new places for them to move to…. we really don’t have much of a plan. Clear out some of the industrial areas that aren’t really being used anymore. Buy out areas that are single level low density… build more and higher. It’s good for the city to grow density wise… good for the businesses. And if we build more LEED certified…better all around.

        • Faiz Imam 09:25 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          Dude what?

          There are literally multiple plans at all levels to do exactly what you describe.

          It’s happening, but perhaps too slowly.

        • Ephraim 10:22 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          Where do you see new developments for housing in Montreal? All I’m seeing, other than Griffintown is infill… especially in the worst spots next to train tracks.

          I’ll give a example, near the Olympic stadium, which is a good location because it’s right on the metro, along the far east, you have single level housing (which used to be called twelve-fives, because after the war they sold for $12,500 which was what a soldier could afford as he was being released.) The area of the Pro-Gym, which was an old Pontiac dealer, with a giant parking lot. The houses can be rebuilt with higher density. The commercial street allows for taller buildings, some greenery around it, maybe even social housing and then commercial property at the bottom.

          And maybe it’s time to rethink things like… the Bordeaux jail, the SAAQ, the closed Loblaws…. all right near the Gare Bois-de-Boulogne. Government land, a great place for social housing because it has easy public transit access. Some higher density, some social housing, green space.

          And finally, a rule to change zonage if a commercial/industrial property isn’t unused or abandoned for a period of time. That’s right… if you leave a building with no tenant, maybe after 5 years, you the city should be allowed to buy it and redevelop it, rather than leave it fallow.

        • Faiz imam 10:43 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          This is one example of what the CMM is working on.


          Recall that the government can’t force construction, all they can do is create rules and regulations, zoning, to allow for the “right” type of construction.

          I know these zoning changes have happened and are still being improved, but at the end of the day its up to the owners of the places you mentioned to decide to demolish whats there are take advantage of the new rules.

        • Ephraim 15:23 on 2020-02-26 Permalink

          There a way to expropriate, but also put in right of refusal, change taxation of zones, for example. Allow houses to be demolished and new densities required. It needs laws and interest. And ways to work with developers as well. You can look at low density and offer to move them, so you can rebuild at higher density. For example, the buildings at L’Acadie and Henri Bourassa… the apartment buildings that were there were replaced with higher density. Then look at the apartment buildings on Decarie between Poirier and Cote-Vertu…. the density could be improved, the amount of greenery could be improved and if you have ever been in those apartments…. you know they need it. (Yes, I realize this is St-Laurent and you can’t build that tall, but yet on Cote Vertu near Place Vertu, they are 6 to 8 story buildings.

          Have you seen what they have done with Wilderton shopping centre? Some commercial space needs to go. And the city needs a formula for parking for commercial space…. like how much commercial space needs how much parking and after that formula, extra parking should have a higher tax rate.

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