That piece by Christopher Curtis was well written and presented all sides fairly, a nice change from what we usually read. Also, this quote struck me, ““You have citizens sometimes who come to the camp to play police and it’s not always a good idea for people to do that,” said Dave Chapman, who runs a nearby homeless day centre. ”
I’m pretty sure we can change ‘not always’ to ‘never. Yeesh, why would someone do that?
Interesting how? A property owner reports trespassing on a Montreal property, and so the Montreal police respond. Pretty straightforward it seems to me. Why involve the SQ?
Orders to remove the camp immediately came form the Ministry of Transportation.
“Police sources say commanders at nearby Station 12 and Station 20 resisted the idea of mowing the camp down. They say the push came from Transport Quebec.”
“Orders”? Transport Quebec owns the property. People were trespassing on it. Transport Quebec reported it to the police. The police probably said “Oh come on, you’re hardly using the property, give them a break”. The MTQ probably said “You have an official complaint of illegality, it’s my property, enforce the law”. I wouldn’t call that “orders”, the journalist’s word “push” is much better. At a certain point, the police have to enforce the law when a complaint is received.
“Immediately”? Article says “The camp had been in place for years”. Seems the MTQ was actually pretty tolerant, until this alleged machete incident I guess.
I literally quoted the article, dissect that quote as you will. It certainly sounds like the catalyst to immediate action was the Ministry, but you are probably right in thinking there are many factors involved. I’m sure the cops on the scene didn’t want to be seen as the bad guys.
dwgs 10:32 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
That piece by Christopher Curtis was well written and presented all sides fairly, a nice change from what we usually read. Also, this quote struck me, ““You have citizens sometimes who come to the camp to play police and it’s not always a good idea for people to do that,” said Dave Chapman, who runs a nearby homeless day centre. ”
I’m pretty sure we can change ‘not always’ to ‘never. Yeesh, why would someone do that?
Ian 10:53 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
Interesting that the municipal police have to do the bidding of the provincial ministry.
Also interesting that this follows directly on the heels of the Turcot officially declared “open for business”
Chris 10:59 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
Interesting how? A property owner reports trespassing on a Montreal property, and so the Montreal police respond. Pretty straightforward it seems to me. Why involve the SQ?
Ian 11:03 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
Orders to remove the camp immediately came form the Ministry of Transportation.
“Police sources say commanders at nearby Station 12 and Station 20 resisted the idea of mowing the camp down. They say the push came from Transport Quebec.”
Chris 11:17 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
“Orders”? Transport Quebec owns the property. People were trespassing on it. Transport Quebec reported it to the police. The police probably said “Oh come on, you’re hardly using the property, give them a break”. The MTQ probably said “You have an official complaint of illegality, it’s my property, enforce the law”. I wouldn’t call that “orders”, the journalist’s word “push” is much better. At a certain point, the police have to enforce the law when a complaint is received.
“Immediately”? Article says “The camp had been in place for years”. Seems the MTQ was actually pretty tolerant, until this alleged machete incident I guess.
Ian 12:00 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
I literally quoted the article, dissect that quote as you will. It certainly sounds like the catalyst to immediate action was the Ministry, but you are probably right in thinking there are many factors involved. I’m sure the cops on the scene didn’t want to be seen as the bad guys.
MarcG 12:02 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
To be fair, Chris was taking issue with the sentence which was not a quote.
dwgs 12:03 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
Interesting in that the property owner is the Ministry of Transportation and generally speaking it’s the SQ who patrols MT roads and property.
Ian 12:05 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
Exactly, but I’m not interested in arguing about it haha
Mull Again 12:09 on 2020-10-20 Permalink
We could all be homeless a year from now, so let’s promise not to pitch our tents anywhere that they could interfere with traffic.