City pays well to keep cops idle
La Presse says it’s costing the city millions to keep certain police officers idle. With a list of men who have been put aside on full pay.
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Ephraim 11:45 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
That’s the union. Instead of idle, they should put them to do awful jobs that no one else wants. Filing, traffic control, no-stopping tickets, etc.
Kate 11:56 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
These would be guys with valuable experience, despite doubts about their judgement. I’m sure they could be put to useful work – maybe not straight up filing, but going over cold cases, making connections that weren’t previously made, using the internet and DNA databases to search for suspects. They don’t have to be out on the street to carry out investigations.
Joey 12:03 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
Ces policiers, principalement des cadres, ont été écartés pour toutes sortes de raisons, que ce soit des guerres de clans, des allégations auxquelles ils ont fait face ou simplement parce qu’on ne voulait plus d’eux dans l’organisation.
Not clear if they are union-protected, but it does seem like they are toxic and therefore should be dismissed instead of suspended with pay (or assigned to menial tasks).
Kate 12:20 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
Yes, the guys mentioned in the article would count as management. I wonder how many unnamed constables are also on permanent leave – they would be protected by the union.
Ephraim 14:18 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
That’s the problem. But we should get at least SOMETHING out of it. Janitorial work? Filing? Traffic? How about making them measure tread wear on winter tires? Checking plates for people who haven’t paid their tickets? Getting double parked cars to move? Tickets for handicapped parking spots? Something… anything… just don’t let them stay home.
I don’t know if I want them to have database access without strict controls.
DavidH 14:42 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
Again?
They are not part of the union. They are management. Says so in the very first sentence. These are the guys the union fights, not defends…
They have an “Association des cadres” which is more of a lobby than what a union is.
This is about litigation, not unions. Same as with Pichet. These people have legal recourses, same as all workers, public or private sector. The City wants them out but does not or cannot do the HR work all the way. In other jobs, people in these circumstances accept a cash settlement and get out. Police define themselves by their jobs. Accepting to leave is akin to pleading guilty. Some of them would probably cost more if we gave them a settlement to leave like they do in the private sector.
The problem here is partly optics. When a private company pays someone toxic to leave (or when the City paid Alain Marcoux to leave), they don’t assign them a menial job they won’t do. And we don’t expect them tp do so either. We just want the damage to stop. We pay them the equivalent of 10-12 years in salary straight up and move forward. These guys dragging things out until retirement age is the same. It’s frustrating but it’s really got nothing to do with unions.
Alison Cummins 17:38 on 2021-01-16 Permalink
Management can’t do union jobs. Period.