Attack called no hate crime
The attack on a man of Asian ethnicity in the Plateau earlier this month has been deemed by police not to have been a hate crime, but four minors have been arrested.
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Chris 13:20 on 2021-03-28 Permalink
Well, well, well. No one wanted to wait for actual evidence, everyone wanted to assume it was some kinda white supremacist, but in fact it was four black minors (according to victim and police). Perhaps doing some idiotic thing that teenagers sometimes do. Happily, they were caught, and we should find out more once in court.
It’s interesting to re-read the original thread again. ex:
walkerp: “Of course it was a racist attack, Chris. Your desperate attempts to use internet logic to cast doubt are just another example of ingrained racism…”
Meelzy: “What’s disturbing is that this same paternalistic attitude from Chris…” “…as you so arrogantly pointed out, there is no evidence so we must assume that it’s not racially motivated.”
I’m curious what you two think now.
Honestly, it really does seem some people *want* to see racism everywhere and always these days. Yes, racism exists; yes, we should combat it; but also remember that we live in the least racist period of human history in one of the least racist countries on earth. Things are better than ever. Yet there’s a concerted effort by some people with an agenda to make it seem like things are worse than ever.
Kate 14:02 on 2021-03-28 Permalink
Chris, you appear to think you have a massive gotcha here, but you don’t.
1. Black people can have racist feelings and impulses.
2. Because police say this wasn’t a hate crime, that doesn’t mean it wasn’t (viz. some of the actions of police themselves).
Why did the four young people single out this young Asian man for their prank? What made him stand out to their eyes? Was he the only person they pranked, and if so, why?
Uatu 20:30 on 2021-03-28 Permalink
As an Asian I get hassled mostly because I’m short and some see that as an easier target. I doubt I’d get bothered if I were a 6′ football player like my friend. The guy was attacked from behind and sometimes when I’m all covered up in winter clothing I’m actually mistaken as a youth from behind. Also the recent reports of attacks on Asians encourages copy cats. And hey I’d like to believe that we live in the least racist place but could you please tell the place because occasionally it tells me the opposite.
Meezly 16:47 on 2021-03-29 Permalink
I still think you’re paternalistic, and now you’re smug and paternalistic.
The so-called hate crimes squad is staffed with 4 white male officers. There are also strong arguments from communities and organizations that this squad is not properly trained to deal with hate crimes. This already sets a power imbalance and disadvantages the victim. These officers have the power to identify whether a crime is racially motivated or not. Even if the victim denies it, they need to do the work by proving it, which can entail looking at their social media presence, correspondences and interviewing family and associates.
It’s possible this squad was reluctant to press hate crime charges because the perpetrators are minors since a hate crime is a much more serious charge.
There is been a lot of black on Asian violence. This is a symptom of white supremacy in North America. If you’re interested in why or how this happens, I encourage you to read up on it.
It also should be noted that when this pepper spray incident was published, the Atlanta shooting happened the following day.
In case you were not aware, several Asian people were massacred for no reason other than the murderer wanted to vent his toxic frustrations on a group of innocent and vulnerable people. The police almost immediately tried to deny that it was a hate crime and used the almost laughable excuse of saying he had a bad day.
This kind of attitude (paternalistic is too nice a word) already adds to the trauma that people of colour have to deal with when they repeatedly hear about these horrific attacks. If you have been paying ANY kind of attention, hearing about racial violence really impacts the mental state of racialized people. In this regard, do you really truly think that visible minorities WANT to make everything about race?
So with all this sh*t that’s happened, you get all smug and righteous about whether a fucking pepper spray assault on a visible minority is a hate crime or not. It really sums up the kind of person you are. So I’m done having any kind of dialog with you.