Demo demands more social housing
A demonstration Saturday demanded more social housing and for the government to do more to hold back rent increases.
Another demo in Hochelaga was protesting the development of a container terminal in the area.
Another demo was for women’s rights, a concept that seems almost quaint these days. It followed from the Journal’s discovery of a group of men who were sharing sexy images of local women on a private group somewhere.
(Is this really about rights though? If a woman sends a nude picture of herself to a man, who then proves untrustworthy and sends copies around to others, does this have anything to do with rights?)
Dominic 20:28 on 2021-05-09 Permalink
The publication of sexual images of another person without their consent is definitely part of the criminal code, and its very likely a crime of which the overwhelming majority of victim’s are women (or young girls)
Kate 09:19 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
Granted, but that’s not a question of rights. Rights are things you find in a bill of rights. In the case of women the rights to vote, to own property and so on, are notable.
Unless I misunderstand the situation, the majority of these photos were taken with the woman’s consent, i.e. they’re not showing a woman who’s asleep or unconscious. So, at risk of vilification, I would add: if a woman doesn’t want her nude pictures getting around, the first step is not get photographed naked.
Dominic 09:56 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
I’m not comfortable blaming victims here. I get your point about rights, but sharing a dirty picture with someone you’re in a committed relationship with seems like a normal flirty thing to do in 2021. The dissolution of the relationship does not give permission to share it.
Kate 10:20 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
No it doesn’t, but it’s bound to happen. Relationships end, and they often end in tears. And there’s no longer such a thing as “giving the photos back” when a photo is a file that can be infinitely copied.
Yes, it is wrong. Even so, women should be more circumspect. That isn’t blaming, it’s common sense.
JaneyB 15:37 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
I may be from another era but I’m with Kate on this one. It’s not like acrimonious breakups are new or surprising. A little prudence is just wise. Didn’t we just have a related Pornhub scandal only weeks ago? Women need to engage with reality sometimes; those crappy situations happen to actual women like…anyone. In a perfect world full of gentlemen, it would be unnecessary to think ahead like this but here we are instead. I’m reminded of the highway signage: ‘The white line is not a physical barrier’. Likewise, laws are only so effective.
Blork 21:18 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
“(The dissolution of the relationship does not give permission to share it.) / No it doesn’t, but it’s bound to happen.”
EXACTLY! Especially when the person you shared the photo with is a 22 male whose brain is not even fully developed yet. As with many such things, the “don’t blame the victim” line obscures the fact that we all need to learn how to make good decisions, and that generally involves pointing out examples of things to NOT do.
MarcG 21:33 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
This still stinks of victim blaming no matter how you wrap it up. Why does the man get a pass for making bad decisions but the woman doesn’t?
Blork 22:13 on 2021-05-10 Permalink
Who says the man gets a pass? AFAIK there are penalties for sharing revenge porn. And the non-pass that the woman gets is only her own embarrassment. It’s not like she gets in trouble with the law for it. And although this is marginally gendered (in that most cases involve males sharing female pics) that’s not an absolute. Surely there are women sharing men pics, men sharing men pics, women sharing women pics, trans sharing trans pics, etc.
Joey 10:50 on 2021-05-11 Permalink
So everyone agrees that sharing nude photos of someone without their permission (or worse, against their wishes) is wrong and bad and shouldn’t be done – but it’s over the line for women to have the right to control the distribution of their images? Yes, yes, boys will be boys and 22-year-old men can hardly be expected to make smart decisions, etc., ok fine, but *isn’t that why we need rules*?? So that the collective can say, clearly, that this thing you are doing that we all agree is Not Acceptable is, in fact, not permitted? Isn’t this the whole point about denouncing and dismantliny rape culture?
“Is this really about *rights*, though,” Kate asked. Absolutely it is!
MarcG 10:56 on 2021-05-11 Permalink
The assumption that it’s inevitable that Person A will share your nudes (or take advantage of your drunkeness, or make lewd remarks about your dress, etc) makes it so that the responsibility is placed on Person B to adjust their behavior, when the bad behavior is actually being performed by Person A. Person A is absolved of responsibility or pressure to improve because we collectively make excuses for them and say that it’s impossible for them to change (“reality”, “underdeveloped brain”). That’s what I meant by a free pass – maybe not in the law but in the culture.