A Journal writer went kayaking underground in the caverns discovered only in 2017 under St‑Léonard.
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Kate
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Kate
Bill Brownstein profiles the Snowdon Deli.
Tux
I used to l live about a 2 minute walk from Snowdon Deli, not only is it easily some of the best smoked meat in the city, the cucumber salad is out of this world, the fries are excellent, the party sandwiches an essential when going on car trips for me… I’m really glad the pandemic didn’t kill it I’ve literally been going there my entire life.
Kate
Sad to admit, I lived even closer to Snowdon Deli than you, Tux, for several years when I was a kid – and we never went. Not once. The main thing we knew about the place was that customers would try to illegally park in the lot adjoining where we lived, and it was part of my father’s job to try to keep them out. So there was an ongoing strife about it.
It was hardly the deli’s fault, but because of their location I think it was difficult for customers to find a place to park, and right beside the building we lived in, on the same corner, was a parking lot that was often (but not always) invitingly empty. (If my father had been more enterprising, he could’ve charged them, and pocketed the proceeds.)
I still haven’t been to Snowdon Deli, largely because I rarely have any reason to visit that part of town any more. Should try it sometime.
CE
I’ve only been once but was extremely impressed with how good the food was. I wish it were closer to where I live, I’d go all the time!
JaneyB
It’s a hop, skip, and a jump from Snowdon metro. Absolutely worth the trip.
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Kate
CTV asks whether vaccine passports will cost businesses customers. I think in the short term, maybe a few, but what if the public knows that a specific grocery chain only employs and admits fully vaccinated people? That’s bound to be a plus. Nice to know you won’t bring home a case of Delta with the groceries.
The Journal asks the same question about bars and restaurants. Owners in this brief piece seem to think most customers will be happy to accede to the requirement.
j2
@TurboHaus on Twitter put it succinctly:
« As we open up our books to start doing shows again, let us be clear, if you’re not vaxxed, you’re not playing. We’ve dealt with landlords, construction, robberies, government shutdowns, zero sleep, crippling stress, the list goes on and on.
And after all that, we still make it to the other side, and there’s a widely accessible vaccine, but you don’t want to take it but still want US to help YOU? Man, eat shit. »
jeather
I would be much happier going to a place that has a vaccine passport. If we’re at 85% of adults who have one dose (most of whom will, I assume, be getting the second dose soon, we’re at about 70% who have two already), the 15% is not a huge percentage of clients. And if given the choice between a restaurant that requires vaccination and one that doesn’t, I’ll go to the first.
qatzelok
I wonder how the métro and other transit will handle this. Will they ask anti-vaxxers to sit at the back of the train?
MarcG
They can go build their own train based on their own science.
Chris
Point of fact: not everyone that hadn’t this vaccine is an anti-vaxer. And not everyone against passports hasn’t had the vaccine.
Daisy
Correct. I’m vaccinated but I am against vaccine passports and won’t be going anywhere that requires me to show one.
Kate
Daisy, what are your concerns?
Daisy
Privacy, security, and the precedent being set.
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Kate
Christopher Curtis follows the Wolf Pack, “a group of volunteers that prowl the streets of Montreal two nights a week to make things safer for those who sleep outside. Yes, they hand out socks, blankets, food, clean syringes and menstrual hygiene products, but the bulk of the work is just being there.”
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Kate
Two experts who have studied the local gangs give their views on what’s causing the recent shootings around town. Criminology professor Marc Alain echoes what Patrick Lagacé wrote this week about the uselessness of bringing the SQ in on an urban matter about which the SPVM already has more expertise – and also on our chronic problem of American weaponry so easily getting across the border into the hands of people who want it.
TVA talks to another expert who thinks the key is to keep an eye on the lesser crimes being committed in certain neighbourhoods, but he too speaks about the problem of easy access to illegal firearms from across the border.
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Kate
The CAQ, well aware of who does and who does not vote for them, is reducing the number of medical practice permits issued in Montreal as of next year. The city is already notoriously short of general practitioners.
Jack
If you live in Chicoutimi 94% of you have a family Doctor, in Cote de Neige 63%. CAQ needs Montreal the same way Duplessis did.
Kevin
The PREM system is immoral, it is based on a legal impossibility, and it has done the opposite of what it was intended to do.
So Quebec will never change it because no government wants to admit that a previous government was wrong.
jeather
At one point Julius Grey wanted to go to court over this, I wonder what happened there.
Uatu
The prem is one of the reasons for the brain drain the caq likes to talk about. I know some med school grads who left because of it
Tux 11:34 on 2021-08-08 Permalink
I had no idea about this but I felt sure it would have been discovered by one of our local urban explorers. Nope! Local caver. That is really cool. Makes me miss the storm drains and steam tunnels of my youth.
Kate 11:45 on 2021-08-08 Permalink
The odd aspect was that a part of the St-Léonard caves had been known about for years but it took till 2017 for someone to discover and explore this further cave system that’s connected to it.
I seem to recall it was asked at the time whether there was any evidence indigenous people had known or made use of the caves, and the answer was no.
Blork 12:23 on 2021-08-08 Permalink
Those caves are mighty impressive, and seem to be very stable and safe to explore. That is, until the day I go there, at which point 20,000 years of stability will be broken by a major shift and a cave-in followed by an earthquake, a hurricane, a flash-flood, and possibly a nuclear explosion. So for the good of you all, I will stay away from those caves.