Denis Coderre announced that Ensemble Montréal agreed on a campaign platform on Sunday, but he’ll tell us about it later. Radio-Canada thinks he’s going to lean hard on law and order.
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Kate
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Kate
A man was shot Sunday evening in New Bordeaux, between Ahuntsic and Cartierville. Not much else has been reported.
Ephraim
I like how they describe the Normandie Shopping Centre/ Galaries Normandie by streets rather than name it. It’s at https://goo.gl/maps/fdgseRLoBWTeCP6V6 The irony of that shopping centre. It was an outdoor mall, they spent a lot of money converting it to an indoor mall only to have half the mall in the last few years, convert back to being outdoor entrances only again. The RBC has always been there. The Pharmaprix is where the Steinbergs was, the Dollarama is where the Woolworth’s was. The IGA was a Dominion store.
Kate
Thanks, Ephraim. It’s a part of town I’ve never become familiar with, so I didn’t catch that.
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Kate
Four people were seriously injured in a mass stabbing Sunday afternoon in Côte-des-Neiges, including the suspect, who is in custody. The setting and the relationship between the attacker and his victims has not yet been made clear.
Update: Monday morning the Gazette says the incident was conjugal violence and that the attacker didn’t stab himself, but was subdued with a blunt object. None of the injuries is life‑threatening.
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Kate
I voted Saturday in an advance poll, and you should know that the advance polls are also open Sunday and Monday from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.
Information about your advance poll is printed on the back of the election card you should have received.
Saturday, I was the only voter in the place, and the bored poll workers all perked up when I sashayed in.
I mostly chose to go this weekend because my advance poll is in a more accessible location than the main one, held in the sprawling brutalist high school around the corner, which has about a dozen doors to the street but no main entrance, and you always have to walk around the whole building puzzling out how to get inside.
Yes, there were plexiglas barriers, individual pencils, and much hand sanitizing. I’m all for effective pandemic measures, but don’t we understand by now that vaccination, masks and distancing are effective, whereas sanitizing hands is virtually pointless?
Adding later: The last time I trained to work in an election, about four years ago, they spent quite a lot of time on the rules concerning women in niqab. If I recall correctly, we were to have a woman scrutineer take the voter aside and verify her identity with a quick peek. But it never came up. Not a single voter came in wearing niqab.
When I voted yesterday they didn’t even ask me to lift my Covid mask to check my face against my ID.
Chris
>don’t we understand by now that […] sanitizing hands is virtually pointless
Unfortunately, we do not. It’s become part of the culture war. If you don’t support doing absolutely every conceivable thing possible to reduce covid risk to absolute zero, you are an anti-vax trump supporting troglodyte.
I went to a resto last week where you can sit maskless (even before/after eating), but they no longer provide physical menus (“because covid”). As if touching a shared menu is anywhere near as risky as breathing next to someone without a mask. (Neither of which are very risky, but one more than the other.)
PS: you’re allowed to bring your own pencil to vote!
jeather
Yeah, I have gone to a restaurant where you’re allowed to be not wearing a mask once you’re seated. I walked into one restaurant where they just — don’t check the vaccine passport. But I can’t find anywhere to make a complaint/report like there was for people breaking quarantine/max people rules in the past.
Tee Owe
I voted by mail already. Would prefer to have some acknowledgement that it was/will be received by deadline but I don’t see that as part of the deal
MarcG
TO: Does this help? : https://www.elections.ca/content2.aspx?section=faq&document=faqvbm&lang=e#faq9a
YUL514
I voted today, there were three different polling stations, each one split (A-M) and (N-Z) and of course I was in the only one with the long lineup. My wife got out about 10 minutes earlier as she fell in the other name bracket. I had to wait about 25 minutes while people were being escorted past the line to the other polling stations. Seems that only (A-M) from our polling station came out to vote today. 🙂
Tee Owe
Thanks MarcG – it didn’t work for me, I think the online option is more to check whether you’re registered. But there is a phone number, I’ll call and see what’s possible.
Ephraim
I’m sorry, but so many people had gross hands before… the majority of men walked out of public bathrooms without washing their hands… just gross. And because of that, Norwalk virus was everywhere…. shopping malls, old age homes and the cinema. I really appreciate having people wash their hands more, though the sanitizing only kills about 50% of Norwalk. But I also find the ritual sort of calms my nerves as well. And seeing others doing it means that they care about others, even if it’s not of major concern. It’s nice to see that we participate in a ritual that shows societal value and concern, if nothing else.
Tim S.
Yeah, I’m with Ephraim on this. I’ve enjoyed being gastro-free for a couple of years.
MarcG
TO: I’m curious to hear the results of your call. I’m hoping that using the 9-digit/last-name thing I linked to will update from “Voting kit sent” to “Vote received” once they’ve got mine.
Kate
OK, granted on the hand thing. I’m not prone to gastro so I hadn’t thought about that. I would just ask people not to put out scented hand sanitizer, because I so dislike having my hands smell of cheap perfume.
But unless I’ve misunderstood things, hand sanitizing is not much use against Covid.
Kevin
@YUL514
A-M may be half the alphabet, but it’s much more than half of the population.Last year at one of my kids’ schools they were going to split up the grade A-M and N-Z — then their medical advisor asked them to count if that was actually an even split.
They ended up going A-K and L-Z.YUL514
@Kevin, I’m sure that’s the case but there was also the case of the other polling stations having no line ups regardless of last name. I don’t know if they split polling stations by population but it’s possible my polling number has a higher number of residents.
jeather
IME polling stations are split by number of voters though they don’t usually split up a block, most polling stations I have worked at have had 400-500 eligible voters, including those who voted in advance etc. Not sure why they split by alphabet though.
Kate
I’ve never seen the alphabet thing done. Always I’ve shown my card to someone at the door, who checks the poll division number then directs me to the correct table.
Tee Owe
MarcG: The phone number is a recording, bit tedious, but gave an email , I had a reply overnight, ballot not received yet but there’s time still. Thanks again for the link.
MarcG
TO: You’ll probably never read this but I just checked the web service again and the “additional info” field does update from “Voting kit sent” to “Completed Ballot received” once it’s been processed. They could work on the messaging to make it more obvious that this is indeed the way to check.
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Kate
An evangelical church in St‑Léonard has paid to put placards on 100 STM buses saying Jésus t’aime, and this is apparently protected under the Canadian charter. The church has also been in the news for breaking sanitary laws.
Chris
Good on the STM for supporting free speech! They also allowed atheist ads years ago (unlike Vancouver and elsewhere).
jeather
Can’t see why these wouldn’t be allowed. I dislike a lot of advertising, but don’t think it should be illegal. (Of course, they don’t find all the religious street names and school names and stat holidays etc a problem, because hypocrisy, but so it goes.)
Blork
Yeah, I don’t see the big deal. I’m not religious, but I also don’t go around telling other people what to believe. A sign on a bus that says “Jésus t’aime” is no different (to me) than a sign that says “Fred Smith wants you to have a good day” or “Drink Coca-Cola.” It’s just a sign; an ad paid for by someone.
Kate
I thought the interesting angle was that they found some people who thought the laïcité law meant such things had been banned.
Chris
Kate, where is that angle? In the linked article the word occurs just once: “Si ces panneaux irritent certains qui y voient un accroc à la laïcité” but I don’t see that that referring to any law, more to the general concept of secularism.
Blork, re: “I’m not religious, but I also don’t go around telling other people what to believe.” That’s fine and all, but I’d like to note that there’s no conflict between trying to convince others what to believe and being fine with allowing others to try and convince you what to believe too.
Phil M
The real question is if the STM would run an ad that says “Jesus hates you.”
tom
on this topic anyone seen the ad for pegas.xxx with the aubergine and palm emojis on the side of the highway? try explaining that to a carload full of kids
Chris
Phil, not that exact message, but they did allow this:
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/atheist-ad-campaign-to-circulate-downtown-1.374311
Ephraim
I have absolutely no problem with their advertising. So which Jesus is this, the one from Mexico or the old Jewish guy who believed that people should spend their time and money on helping the poor and downtrodden and therefore shouldn’t really be spending money on advertising? Fishes and loaves and bus advertisements!
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Kate
Dominique Ollivier, who till this week was chair of the Office de consultation publique de Montréal (OCPM), has stepped down to run for councillor in Vieux‑Rosemont, and Mayor Plante has promised to make her the next executive committee chairman if they both win their elections.
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Kate
A closed business in Park Ex was shot at late on Saturday.
Shots also were fired overnight in St-Michel but nobody was injured.
ant6n 05:47 on 2021-09-13 Permalink
(I wonder to what extent simple party members could vote on the party programme)
Kate 08:48 on 2021-09-13 Permalink
I have a feeling that with Coderre, it’s handed down on tablets. And if you don’t like it, the door is there.