Hate crime suspect cries “joke”!
Like the worst kind of prankster or sociopath, Gabriel Sohier‑Chaput, on trial for disseminating hatred, claims it was all a joke – the antisemitic ranting and the pro‑Nazi declarations in an article posted on the far‑right Daily Stormer site, which also hosts items hating women, Black people, Muslims and LGBTQ folks. It was all written to provoke lefties, Sohier‑Chaput says. Do any lefties read the Daily Stormer?
Update: A regular reader recommends this twitter thread from No Borders Media, who are covering the trial.
Marco 16:55 on 2022-03-01 Permalink
In pro‑Nazi circles, this is known as “Locker room talk” which somehow makes it more acceptable to the cons.
qatzelok 16:58 on 2022-03-01 Permalink
Wow, Marco. Thanks for risking your life by revealing insider information.
Marco 17:04 on 2022-03-01 Permalink
@qatzelok how did you know this was insider information?
H.John 18:10 on 2022-03-01 Permalink
Here’s a Huffpost piece from 2017 on The Daily Stormer’s Playbook:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/daily-stormer-nazi-style-guide_n_5a2ece19e4b0ce3b344492f2
And, here’s Jaggi Singh’s report on day 1 of the trial:
https://itsgoingdown.org/trial-of-daily-stormer-neo-nazi-gabriel-sohier-chaput-aka-zeiger-begins-in-montreal/
Kate 19:12 on 2022-03-01 Permalink
Jaggi Singh writes a pretty good piece. Thanks, H. John.
Raymond Lutz 22:13 on 2022-03-01 Permalink
Speaking of fascists, Is the Montreal Greek community marched in the streets to support “the people of Ukraine”? Maybe this is of interest: Greek in Mariupol: “The fascist Ukrainians are killing us, they don’t let us leave the city” (VIDEO)
H.John 01:31 on 2022-03-02 Permalink
@Raymond Lutz
I don’t understand how some really poorly done Russian propaganda is relevant.
dhomas 03:06 on 2022-03-02 Permalink
@H.John I read the article linked by RL out of curiosity. Then I looked up the Azov Battalion:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
Now I just don’t know what to think anymore. I mean, I know almost anyone can modify Wikipedia (including Russian propagandists), but some of the sources check out (thehill.com, for example).
Netta 05:55 on 2022-03-02 Permalink
Pontic Greek population of Mariupol is less than 5% of population. Fascist population of Ukraine is less than that. Disappointing to see widely-discredited Kremlin talking points here, Raymond Lutz.
nau 09:21 on 2022-03-03 Permalink
@Netta Ukrainians make up a similarly small proportion of the global population. Does that mean we should be indifferent to their suffering? Citing the size of the Greek minority is not a very thoughtful approach.
@dhomas There are fascists in Ukraine like everywhere (this is a thread about a Canadian fascist). It’s not everywhere that they’re organized in a combat group that the government recognizes as legitimate, but then it’s not everywhere that has to conduct a war against secessionists armed by its much more powerful neighbour. There’s no proof that the current government of Ukraine is itself fascist, and certainly most Ukrainian civilians are not. It’s not worth debating whether Putin qualifies as a fascist or not but he is clearly a vicious authoritarian dictator who will have no qualms deploying the most heinous brutality to achieve the objectives of his invasion of Ukraine, which are decidedly larger than simply annihilating the Azov battalion.
References to “Russian” propaganda are grating. Some Russians have courageously spoken up against Putin’s war and I’m sure many more would like to. There are no doubt many Russian nationalists who support Putin, but they don’t represent all Russians anymore than the Azov battalion represents all Ukrainians. Putin’s propaganda or, as Netta uses, Kremlin talking points convey the intended meaning perfectly well.
Raymond Lutz 22:42 on 2022-03-04 Permalink
à voir la popularité (au près d’Ukrainiens de tout âge) des marches aux flambeaux honorant la mémoire des Bandera, Shukhevych et Stetsko, je doute que la mouvance fasciste Ukrainienne se limite aux seuls membres du Bataillon Azov. Et je réfute la justification de devoir bombarder depuis 2014 des villes parce qu’elles sont sécessionnistes.
Pour ceux qui lisent le Français je recommande fortement le site d’Olivier Berruyer, qui, comme moi, dénonce la guerre, mais insiste sur l’importance de l’histoire, lointaine ou récente, pour aborder les questions géopolitiques. (Duh!) Ex: la situation actuelle ne peut être évaluée par quiconque ne connaît pas les dessous de l’Euromaidan (2014) et les implications des USA (le “Fuck the EU” de Victoria Nuland vous est inconnu? il vous manque des notions essentielles…). Les missiles d’octobre vous font penser à un film? Aller lire un peu. Tiens, je vois que les-crises.fr ont traduit une de leur video sur l’expansion de l’OTAN et sa promesse non-tenue.
MarcG 10:53 on 2022-03-05 Permalink
For the anglos, Yves Engler has written some good pieces recently which provide similar background: https://yvesengler.com/category/ukraine/
Raymond Lutz 11:04 on 2022-03-05 Permalink
Pour ceux qui sont pas au fait de l’histoire, la vice-première ministre Canadienne Freeland qui s’exclame “Gloire à L’Ukraine” et porte une banderole de l’UPA (Ukrains’ka povstens’ka armiya) c’est comme si Legault exhibait un drapeau de La Meute ou Storm Alliance. Oui, Hitler a fait emprisonner Bandera (puis libérer pour tenter de s’en faire un allier), c’est compliqué, mais l’association UPA et fascisme est indéniable. Je n’affirme pas que les Ukrainiens soient fascistes mais qu’une portion importante de leur population l’est, est bien organisée, est instrumentalisée et armée par l’OTAN pour mener une guerre de proxy contre la Russie. Importante signifie quoi? Yevhen Karas affirme qu’ils composaient 8% des participants au coup d’état de l’Euromaidan et que sans eux (S14, un groupe néo-Nazi Ukrainien issu du parti Svoboda), le mouvement aurait été une “gay parade”.
Merci MarcG pour le lien vers Engler, c’est encourageant, here’s another one for our mtlcityweblog English readers: https://gilbertdoctorow.com/