The ARTM’s new transit fare system goes into effect Friday. It’s supposed to streamline and simplify what used to be a diabolically complicated fare structure, but CBC radio just had someone on talking about how complicated and confusing the new system is, so who knows.
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Kate
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Kate
Police are putting out feelers to help identify a suspect in the April murder of Steven Marques at the corner of St‑Laurent and Jean‑Talon. One suspect has already been charged, but is clearly not talking about who his accomplice was.
A second man has been arrested and charged in the shooting of Meriem Boundaoui.
Frederick Silva, jailed for 25 years for three killings in 2018, has received police protection after two of his friends were recently killed in the Montreal area. Daniel Renaud says here that if Silva turns informant, it may shake up the local gangster world.
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Kate
Metro notes that the Falaise Saint-Jacques path is open but without suggesting how to access it. This piece from Urbanature suggests accessing it via the old Rose Bowl site.
Daniel D
I visited a few weeks ago and its pretty accessible.
To find the path from Vendome, follow directions for the Montreal Children’s Hospital and come out on Declarie Boulevard. Head South and cross over Saint-Jacques street to find the cycle path zig-zagging down the escarpment.
From Montreal West station, head south on leafy Brock Street and follow it until it intersects with Sainte-Anne de Bellevue Boulevard.
There also seemed to be a mid-way access point which leads up to Benny Farm, but I didn’t go and explore it. Got to leave something unknown for the next visit 😉
(I wrote about it on my blog if anyone wants to see another perspective on it: https://heliomass.com/posts/088-exploring-the-saint-jacques-escarpment)
Kevin
I was going to say the western point doesn’t seem accessible at all, being located in the middle of a commercial/industrial area that only got sidewalks as part of the Turcot rebuild. I used to live 2 blocks from Brock St. and didn’t realize that it now connects to Ste. Anne de Bellevue Blvd.
Kate
Daniel D, thanks for that link. Very useful descriptions! I was thinking of going to have a look, but you know, with Covid rising again, I’m not sure I want to take public transit that far from Villeray right now if I don’t have to. Maybe later this summer, or in the fall.
James
@Daniel D: The 3rd entrance is not really official but is here:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4624851,-73.6213194,3a,75y,149.48h,90.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUTeKXO6_pnY_2lAmHI3Xxg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DUTeKXO6_pnY_2lAmHI3Xxg%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D240.42012%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Not exactly Benny farm…
There are some home-made items as you descend from this access point : many bird feeders and a skate-board park.
The city has recently purchased the land adjacent to this entrance (the car repair shop) and intends to make it the 3rd official entrance to the park.
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Kate
City hall will be holding a public consultation at the end of the summer on why so few people vote in municipal elections.
I have some ideas. The root problem is that people generally have a poor grasp of what the different levels of government do. A couple of municipal elections ago, a friend was running for council in my area, and asked me to go around my block with him and help introduce him to my neighbours.
It was a real eye‑opener for me, as people asked him about many matters not covered by municipal services, and yet seemed to have no real idea how much influence the powers of the city and borough have on the quality of life in their immediate surroundings – the streets, the parks, the general tone and conduct of city life. Except for the mayor, the politicians involved don’t tend to be well recognized unless there’s a scandal. So people can dismiss municipal politics as unimportant: they don’t understand what it does.
I used to work with a guy who lived in Rosemont. He had some complaints about his neighbourhood and I asked him who his councillor was and why he didn’t send them an email. He didn’t know, but he’d already given up fatalistically on the idea that the councillor – whoever they were – might respond to his concerns. He hadn’t voted in the municipal election either – I asked. This man was a property owner and an otherwise competent person, too. It was a real delineation of the disconnect that people feel. Is it the city’s fault? Or is it that we’re not properly taught civics so we don’t understand the mechanisms of government?
I recently stopped following a Facebook group called “Montreal Then and Now” where people posted occasionally interesting old photos. But it became a general kvetch fest in which it became clear that a lot of older anglos still think city hall is the same nest of vipers it was under Tremblay (and, in some cases, that nothing in the city has been any good since Drapeau was mayor, since the PQ was first elected, etc.). I don’t know how city hall can demonstrate to these bitter codgers that it is no longer corrupt from top to bottom, but a lot of people still think it is and therefore it’s futile to vote in city elections. In their world, no matter who you elect, city hall will remain deeply corrupt.
A footnote that crosses my mind: the borough system doesn’t help. That people don’t know what the borough does vs. what the city does, adds an extra layer of confusion. I’ve worked in municipal elections and people can be perturbed by the fact that they get three ballots, because the structure of the city government is not apparent to them and when people feel confused often they will just turn away.
So that’s what I know. Better education would help. Since most of us are already out of school, it’ll be on the city to inform us what they do, and how we can contribute. How you get people to take enough interest, I don’t know. Their focus is elsewhere, even if they complain every week on Facebook about the potholes on their street.
Kevin
I fully agree with you. Canada needs a few widespread education campaigns about how basic stuff works because most of our population hasn’t got a clue.
But politicians and bureaucrats like when nobody knows how things work because it allows them to shift the blame to somebody else.
I don’t know if governments will ever do this, but one place to start would be including something eyecatching and informative with the annual school and municipal tax bills.
Dominic
This seems like a good-as-any moment to unsubscribe from that same Facebook group. Its trash.
Daniel D
Imagine being a resident of nearly 10 years who doesn’t yet have the vote, and realising how many people don’t exercise their democratic rights to vote, speak to their representatives or educate themselves.
dhomas
Many people I know will complain about things in the city and do absolutely zero to change it.
For example, the last time I went to my sister’s house, she and her husband’s family (who live on the next street over) complained about a pothole and how “the city does nothing to fix it”. I pulled out my phone and opened my trusty Montreal app to report the pothole. It was fixed within 48 hours.
These same people complain about tons of things relating to city politics (most of which I disagree with, like how “the city is ‘ruining’ streets with bike paths” or other such nonsense). Yet they don’t vote in municipal elections, or make their voices heard in other ways. It’s probably for the best that they don’t vote, just like the “bitter codgers” from that Facebook group, or they might prevent more streets from being “ruined”.
Meezly
In BC, I remember learning in high school how the federal level works and a bit about provincial government, but never the municipal level. I only learned more about municipal level stuff only when I took an interest in voting and becoming informed over time. It was quite a gradual process as my parents were totally apolitical and uninterested in politics.
I wonder if it has to do with public schools being under provincial jurisdiction so I can kind of see how municipal politics is “beneath” the curriculum or they see this as something that should be left to the local community or individual to go about on their own.
Joey
I dunno, your Rosemont colleague sounds like someone who has a poor grasp of civics but a decent grasp of politics.
Kate
A blanket undiscerning cynicism is a dead end, civically speaking.
Joey, I had counter-examples for him. Several times I’ve emailed my councillor over issues in the neighbourhood – stuff about roads and sidewalks and safety mostly. And she has always responded and usually acted on them. That doesn’t necessarily mean that my colleague’s councillor would have been so responsive, but he never bothered to find out, did he?
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Kate
It was announced in early April that there would be no Canada Day parade here because of the pandemic. Now they’re saying it’s because it costs too much.
Nobody’s saying there’s not a lot of demand for a Canada Day parade here, but I think it’s a fair guess.
The long weekend is expected to be a hot one; notes on what’s open and closed.
dhomas
Just a note (it’s mentioned in the article): the PARADE is cancelled but the festivities at the Old Port are still taking place.
https://www.oldportofmontreal.com/event/canada-day-2022Kate
Here’s a Daily Hive piece on things to do around town this long weekend.
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Kate
As presaged by La Presse last week, NATO will be placing its “centre of excellence” for climate change and security in Montreal.
When I posted about this last week, regular reader Su commented: “This has to do with the Arctic. As it is warming (many times faster than anywhere else) to the delight of many. The vast resources (oil, gas, “green” rare metals) and brand new shipping routes are open to exploitation.”
But even the phrasing of Thursday’s piece makes it clear that the purpose of this “centre of excellence” (why the bogus management-speak when you can just say “headquarters”?) is concerned with the effects of climate change on the national security of NATO countries, and not on efforts to counter climate change in itself.
No news yet about the scale of this installation or where it will be located in town.
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Kate
Without getting too specific, Daniel Renaud tells how the SPVM went all out to round up suspects in the shooting death of Meriem Boundaoui last year. At least one of them is expected in court Thursday.
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Kate
Following from Tuesday’s item, public health’s Dr Luc Boileau held a presser Wednesday warning of rising COVID-19 numbers as the virus spawns new variants. He suggests people go for another booster.
Bert
To be fair, the article states that the recommendation is for the 4th dose, which has been available for a while now. “…..une deuxième dose de rappel – c’est-à-dire une quatrième dose du vaccin …..”
Those who are already quad-vaxed are not being suggested to get another booster.
Kate
Yes, that is clearer. Thank you.
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Kate
The only way to deal with chaos at the airport is to reduce the number of flights, according to Aéroports de Montréal. So that’s what they’re going to do.
Ephraim
Next they will complain that there aren’t enough passengers and flights to cover expenses and they will want money from the government, plus an increase in the fees to use the airport… all because they can’t properly manage an airport.
Here’s a wild idea… how about we put up the management of the airport out to tender, with a company bonded to provide the service at a fixed price and a fixed AIF and if the level of complaints go up, we FINE them and give them 90 days notice of the end of their contract. In other words, you fail at management of the airport… you lose your contract and your JOB.
Meezly
It’s not just here and it’s not just bad management. This is a trend we’re seeing with airports across North America.
Demand for travel shrank during the pandemic and the global travel industry is now trying to keep up now that everyone suddenly wants to and can travel, including passport offices, car rental companies, etc.
What we should really be telling everyone is continue to vacation locally, if you can do so.
Bert
But remember a year or so ago when there were all the hub-bub about zombie flights done by the airlines, to keep flight crew current (minimum flight time per period required) and / or to landing / gate privileges. Airlines pay for the number of gates they occupy and do so by landing and/or operations. (to be fair I don’t really understand why an airline couldn’t just continue paying “the rent” with no flights).
Ephraim, I feel that whatever management you might have at an individual airport, it is the cartel of airlines and the overarching national / global regulation bodies’s that have so much regulation (which I am not saying is a bad thing) that just overrides all the rest.
Silly question, but do you think that it is a problem with the number of ground or flight crew, , servers who get you your double-double or authentic Montreal smoked meat or that duty free Channel No. 5, or the security personnel – potentially extended to the Montreal police, the infrastructure people of the airport, or even the air traffic controllers? There are at least 5 distinct responsible groups in there…. The carrier, merchants, CATSA – SPVM, ADMTL, Nav Can. They all need to mesh together and if one or more is out-of-sink all the dominoes fall.
Of course, that said, one will probably need a valid passport… Cart meet horse…. Horse meet cart.
Ephraim
We have a real sickness in this country for “not-for-profits” that are really ripping off the public and AdeMtl and Tourisme Montreal are two examples. They are quasi governmental and aren’t really an open non-profit, they are not for profits that make any profit disappear at the end of the year in management’s pockets.
They aren’t working with locked salaries and move the money to the next year and lower the cost of services (like SAAQ), they instead just increase the salaries of management, make it all go to $0 and voila, they are “non-profit”.
And of course, all you have to do is call out the press releases… https://www.newswire.ca/fr/news-releases/adm-annonce-ses-resultats-financiers-au-31-mars-2022-823217078.html where they show their paper losses… business up 163%, loss down 57%… but of course, if they cut down how much traffic they handle… the losses will be worse.
Tim S.
A pilot acquaintance has been telling me since the beginning of the pandemic that while the pilots would stick around through the furloughs, the ground staff probably wouldn’t.
Ephraim
Let’s see… Air Canada pays full-time ramp agent $21.11 and part time $16.60. Not a lot of money to be slinging 30 kg luggage. Want to clean the planes? $15.55 an hour. Call centre $16.56 an hour. Want to be yelled at while checking people in? That’s $16.56 an hour. It’s clear, the company just isn’t realistic about their pay.
I can’t get someone to clean for $25 an hour and they don’t have to trudge out to Dorval to do it.
Bert
The cost of the SAAQ services hasn’t gone down. The costs of the insurance premiums that are part of the overall fees have gone down, resulting in an overall lower total cost.
Lots of groups leverage the Not-For-Profit status… like the NFL, the PGA, the NFL, various IOC country organizations, and the NCAA. How much do the real workers of the NCAA, i.e. the athletes, make squat.
Daniel D
It would be good for Canada (or at least, Ontario and Quebec) to look at what’s been done in France:
• Build high speed rail links between its major cities
• Make the pricing and convenience competitive with air travel
• When there’s enough critical mass on the trains but enough remaining capacity, ban direct flights between those cities connected by high speed railWhen you look at the number of daily flights between Montreal and Toronto, Ottawa and Quebec, if you removed those this would take the pressure off the airport in a big way and you’ve also removed a tonne of daily carbon emissions as well.
Ephraim
@Bert – The surplus of the SAAQ goes 50% to the Generations fund and 50% to surplus to cover future costs. NONE of it goes to giving management a golden ticket. Tourisme Montreal, for example, gave the leaving manager over $700K. That is NOT how public money should be spent. And when I say public money… every hotel is collecting a 3.5% tax for them. You take public money… you have to have better standards.
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Kate
There have been more arrests in the shooting death of Mereim Bendaoui in February 2021, and details will be given out later Wednesday.
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Kate
SPVM police seized a lot of drugs, cash and guns recently, but La Presse’s writers tell about it in a story discussing how “street gangs” are now competing with bigger players like the Mafia and the biker gangs. Is it even useful to make these distinctions? What makes a gang “street”? I’m not accusing either Daniel Renaud or Henri Ouellette‑Vézina of being racist, but they report unquestioningly on the police assumption that there’s some distinction between the bikers, Mafia and Irish gangs on the one hand, and “street gangs” on the other, which mostly seems to be based on the fact that members of “street gangs” aren’t for the most part white.
steph
What’s with the watermarks on the SPVM pictures?
Ephraim
Without pictures, articles and exaggerated amounts based on the cut street value, rather than the actual wholesale value, the police look like they aren’t doing anything… and it’s hard to request an increase in your budget when people don’t think you are actually doing your job.
Reminds me of how police solve murders… it’s drug/crime/mafia related… solved! It’s amazing how many murders you can mark as solved by classifying them as drug/crime/mafia related, rather than actually leaving them open… because who wants a solve rate of just 5%… it doesn’t look good.
Kate
From my observations doing this blog for 20 years, most homicides are either gang‑related or domestic (some of which stem from untreated mental illnesses). The cops have few actual murder mysteries to solve in the classic sense. They may not immediately know which specific gangster pulled the trigger, but they do usually have a good idea where to look. Our cops have their failings, but triangulating on gang hits is something they’re pretty good at.
Have a look at last year’s incident map. There were 37 homicides last year. The Gazette ran a piece about this, and accorded the cops a 57% solution rate, compared to a 92% rate in 2020. (The rate for 2021 may just have risen with the arrests in the shooting of Meriem Bendaoui.)
I don’t think they can mark a murder as solved if they know it was a gang hit but don’t know who did it.
Ephraim
I don’t specifically know the rules in Montreal, but it’s common in many laces… like LA. Of the 25 murders in 2020, the Montreal police claimed they solved 22 of them. The national average in Canada is 76%. And yet LA has a 50% solve rate, with a lot more resources.
Kate
What I’m not sure about – maybe H. John can tell us – is whether police can consider a homicide solved when someone’s arrested and charged, or when they’re convicted. In the latter case, they’d have to wait a year or two till cases come to trial and are resolved.
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Kate
Maria Mourani tells us that Montreal probably has five rats for every human but hasn’t this been true of most cities since we’ve had cities?
Ephraim
Usually a city has mice or rats, but not both… because the rats eat the mice. But I have rarely seen a rat in Montreal… but see mice all over the place, even running on the metro tracks. Where are people seeing these rats…. other than the CAC offices? 🙂
walkerp
That is weird, because I’ve never seen a rat in Montreal either. I don’t know what the ratio was in NYC when I was there, but they were quite visible, especially if you were out late.
John B
I’ve seen rats walking along in front of the apartments on my block of Verdun street, including my building.
They apparently weren’t doing a great job of eating the mice, because I’ve also had mice in my building.
MarcG
There was a rat hanging around behind my place a few years ago and I’ve seen them scurrying around in vacant lots around town. But tons of mice, too, I think I’ve caught over 20 in the past few years.
CE
I can tell none of you have ever worked in a restaurant kitchen in Montreal. If you want to see rats, you’ll get plenty of them there.
I’ve had mice and voles in various apartments around the city but usually have a cat living with me, so they generally don’t last long. I’ve never seen or heard of a rat in an apartment in Montreal.
GC
I had mice in my first apartment in Montreal and the Super told me the basement apartment had had a rat. I guess they were all living in harmony?
I’ve seen plenty of mice in the metro, but the only time I actually saw rats here was when I cut through Place Emilie-Gamelin at night a few months ago. They were…not small. (Though I definitely saw bigger ones in Manhattan.)
dhomas
Due to some poorly done, DIY-type renovations, the last apartment I lived at in Rosemont had rats coming up from the sewers. I could hear them gnawing/clawing at the walls at night, and every so often they would find their way out and into the apartment. I never left any kind of food out on the counter or anything, because I was worried the rats might come for it. Eventually, the owners got it fixed, but it was kinda nasty for a while. Never saw another test after that sewer repair, though.
At my new place, I will sometimes see what I think are deer mice. My cat will sometimes bring them home. Never seen a rat here, though.Kate
GC, if anywhere in this city was going to have Rodents of Unusual Size, it would be that square.
dhomas, that gnawing is horror movie-esque.
dwgs
Maybe 10 or 12 years ago a rat got into our house, still not sure how. The sewers had recently been redone on a nearby street, maybe that had something to do with it. Nothing quite like lying in bed hearing the thing scuttle around the house in the dead of night, debating whether to get up and chase it (thereby waking up and freaking out the whole family) or try to subtly let it know that you’re there and awake and hope it goes back into hiding. They’re too smart for traps, in the end I called an exterminator. Pro tip, save yourself a couple of hundred bucks and just go buy a lot of poison yourself and place it all over the house. Oh, and be prepared for the poisoned rat to stagger out into public, behaving very erratically and stage a very dramatic death scene. It’s not an experience I would recommend.
Kate
Sewer work can do it. A long time ago, a friend’s residential street was dug up for sewer replacement in NDG and their house became infested with rats. I don’t remember what they had to do about it, just how nasty it was for them.
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Kate
The city says it’s braced for Moving Day with resources to help households that haven’t yet found affordable new digs.
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Kate
Covid cases are rising again as a variant called BA.5 surges to the fore, while monkeypox rises steadily in the epicentre of that disease in North America. At least monkeypox already has an effective vaccine. Feeling itchy yet?
Meezly
The lifting of measures was what finally got us – likely one of the new BA#s. I think getting my 4th dose a week before I had symptoms helped to lessen the severity as my non-boosted husband got it worse, but we’re recovering now. So get your booster if you haven’t got it yet.
Kate
Meezly, I’m sorry to hear you guys caught it. Best wishes for a full recovery!
Meezly
Thanks Kate, appreciate it.
dhomas
I hope you feel better, Meezly! I just tested positive yesterday, about 4-5 days after my wife brought it home from school (her school is now up to 16 teachers confirmed to have gotten it in the last week of classes).
I too think that the measures being lifted were the final straw for this latest surge in cases. There was only about a month left to school when they lifted the mask mandate; couldn’t they just tough it out a few more weeks? But more than that, it was no longer necessary to declare cases in schools since the beginning of the year, I believe. So, people could sick and the administration didn’t necessarily tell anyone. Many people took a much more relaxed attitude in the final weeks of school since the government had told us “pandemic over! Go back to your lives!”
Kate
dhomas, I hope you and your wife both feel better soon. That school sounds like a super spreader hotbed.
Meezly
Totally agree there, dhomas. Hope you both don’t get too sick and recover quickly.
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Kate
The man killed in the weekend stabbing has been identified as 72‑year‑old lawyer Raymond Hébert. The only suspect is his stepson, who’s off to Pinel to be assessed for fitness to face trial.
Blork 16:28 on 2022-06-30 Permalink
The new integrated and “simplified” rates are indeed simpler for people who cross systems (e.g., from Zone B — Longueuil or Laval — into the Montreal Metro) AND who use the system only occasionally, via individual tickets instead of monthly passes. However, there’s a hitch: the cost has gone way up. It’s now $5.25 a ticket for any ride — even rides within the island of Montreal if you’re a “Zone B” user. (Although if you buy tickets 10 at a time it’s $4.50.)
HOW IT IS SIMPLER:
Previously, for occasional use you had to buy three different kinds of ticket (or more precisely, load three different kinds of “passages” onto your OPUS card):
1. Longueuil or Laval bus tickets
2. Metro tickets for entering the system from Longueuil or Laval
3. Tickets for use on the island of Montreal.
Worse, you had to go to THREE DIFFERENT PLACES to get the tickets, because each location only sold one kind of ticket.
All that is gone. Now you can only load one kind of ticket on your OPUS card:
A = bus and Metro on the island of Montreal. ($3.50 a ride.)
OR:
AB = bus in Longueuil or Laval, plus entry into the Metro, plus any on-island transit. ($5.25 a ride.)
(There are also tickets for the farther-out regions, but for this discussion let’s keep it to Zone B, which is Laval or Longueuil into Montreal.)
This means you now only need to know HOW MANY TICKETS are on your card, not HOW MANY OF EACH KIND of ticket, which was previously next to impossible to determine.
HOW IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE:
The kicker is that you can only load one kind of ticket onto your OPUS card. You can’t load “AB” tickets for entering at Longueuil and also load “A” tickets for on-island use only. After all, how would that work?
If you have both “A” and “AB” tickets on your OPUS, how does the system know which one to deduct when you get on the Metro at Peel or McGill or whatever? It cannot know if you plan to go all the way to Longueuil or Laval and then take a bus. It will assume you’re just riding from one Metro station to another and deduct an “A” ticket.
But if you are going to Longueuil or Laval, and you plan to take a bus from there, the bus has no way of knowing that you just got off the Metro, so it will grab an “AB” ticket for your ride. So your ride home has cost you both an “A” ticket ($3.50) and an “AB” ticket ($5.25). For a total of $8.75.
For people who only use the system to occasionally commute to work from Zone B and back, it’s no big deal. Your ride is going to cost $5.25 each way, full stop. But for people who occasionally commute to work from Zone B and back, and also want to occasionally ride the Metro within the island, those on-island rides will cost you $5.25, while the people around you only paid $3.50.
Also note that your entry ticket into the Metro in Laval or Longueuil must be an AB ticket at $5.25, whether or not you come by bus. So people who live walking distance from those Metro stations pay the same as people who live farther out and combine bus and Metro.
One workaround is to have TWO OPUS CARDS, and to load “AB” tickets on one, for your commute, and load “A” tickets on the other for hopping around on the island. Annoying, but you’ll save almost two dollars a ride, which may or may not be worth the inconvenience (only you can decide).
DISCLAIMER: It’s really hard to get precise information on how this works, so the above is based on a bunch of reading and a a certain amount of conjecture. There might actually be some kind of intelligence built into the system, such that you can load both A and AB tickets onto the same card, and it deducts an A ticket when you get on at Peel, and when you get on a bus in Laval or Longueuil it returns the A ticket and deducts an AB ticket. I can see you all rolling on the floor laughing and wailing “AS IF!” and I’m with you on that. Very highly unlikely that such intelligence is built-in.
Blork 16:29 on 2022-06-30 Permalink
One other thing, and this is nice: you can use an AB ticket to take the river shuttle from the old port to the Longueuil marina (or the other way). Sweeeet!
Kate 17:04 on 2022-06-30 Permalink
I think we need a type O, universal donors.
Thanks for the extended explanation. I fear somehow ending up by mistake in Laval or Brossard and never getting home because I’m Type A.
Joey 23:11 on 2022-06-30 Permalink
New York has recently introduced a system called Omny. You tap your phone (or credit card) without doing anything – double-clicking a button, unlocking your phone, even turning the screen on – and your account is billed one fare. Once you’ve paid for 12 fares during any Monday to Sunday period (using the same device), your subsequent rides are free until the end of the week. Too bad we’re still figuring out how to implement Opus.
Tee Owe 08:04 on 2022-07-01 Permalink
London ha a similar system to NY, makes it so easy, especially for visitors
dhomas 08:30 on 2022-07-01 Permalink
What’s missing in Montreal, other than the cumulative trip calculations mentioned above, is exit scans. In many cities, you tap your card to get into the metro and again to get out. That way, you get charged for an interzone trip only when you make that trip.