This was posted first on reddit’s /r/montreal and is now on 24heures: a café in Villeray put out a sign saying not to bring your own food and drink because it’s not a cafeteria – and to some of their “customers” it’s apparently news!
I know the place well. It’s full of students working away on their laptops, so the café can’t be making a big profit off them anyway, although the owner says in the item that he doesn’t mind. But bringing their own snacks and drinks is a bridge too far.
DeWolf 20:55 on 2022-11-02 Permalink
I was sitting on a brewery terrasse awhile back when somebody joined her friend and brought along a six pack of White Claw. The brewery owner eventually came out and asked her very politely to either hide the White Claw or move along. She seemed… surprised. As if it was a totally normal thing to do, to bring your own drinks to a brewery.
jeather 21:08 on 2022-11-02 Permalink
My feeling is you can do that for small children if there is an adult eating (at least as many adults as children) though you should still buy a drink for them, but not for adults.
j2 21:41 on 2022-11-02 Permalink
Uh, the business can lose their liquor license if non-restauration alcohol is found on premise. The assumption is owner is making money bypassing paying taxes. I’m surprised it wasn’t dealt with more absolutely, eg get it off premise.
CE 22:38 on 2022-11-02 Permalink
Bottles of alcohol are very clearly marked if they’re sold to be consumed in a commercial setting (they’ll either be marked “CSP” on the label or have a sticker bearing a number and “QUÉBEC DROITS ACQUITTÉS” (in Helvetica bold)). If an inspector finds a bottle or can without either, they can get a pretty substantial fine or have their liquor licence suspended or revoked. Most bar employees would be much less than polite about someone bringing in their own alcohol.
Blork 09:34 on 2022-11-03 Permalink
I never cease to be amazed at the lack of curiosity you see in people. Someone bringing their own White Claw to a brewery terrace or their own drinks or food to a café… I mean what the actual f*ck? Do they not even WONDER if that’s allowed? Do they just assume it because they have such a strong sense of their own entitlement and a total lack of curiosity about how the world works?
I wonder if some of these people are students from outside of Quebec who have just bought into the idea that Montreal is some kind of “free zone” where everything is allowed. An 18-year-old from Toronto would be shocked and thrilled to see beer and wine for sale in a corner store and grocery stores. A dinner on Duluth where they can bring their own wine AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING “CARDED” would seem like a surrealistic dream come true. So maybe they just extend the metaphor so to speak…
BYOW in restaurants is well known here. Some let you bring your own beer. I don’t know where that stands legally, but a pizza restaurant I’ve been frequenting since the 1980s allows that. Most customers there are university students, and it’s not uncommon to see a six-pack on the floor under someone’s table. So I wonder if some of these incurious Ontarians ever show up at L’Express or La Banquise toting a dozen Molson X and expect to be let in with it.
DeWolf 10:04 on 2022-11-03 Permalink
In the case of the brewery, one of the girls — the one who was drinking a pint of beer from the brewery, not the White Claw one — was like “But, this is like, a public terrace?” after the brewery owner came out. I’m not sure how they could have been under that impression when there’s only one entry point to the seating area, and it’s surrounded by planters and ropes. This is on Prince Arthur where there is indeed a public terrace a few steps away, but it’s hard to confuse the two.
Ephraim 10:40 on 2022-11-03 Permalink
The BYOB allows for anything under 20%, if I remember correctly. Oddly enough, the licence is the same price as a full licence. But generally they will give you only ONE set of glasses… and how do I know this? My uncle came with a full assortment of wines, unsure of what he would order and wanted to switch wines.
I understand if you have to bring your own food because you are a vegan celiac allergic to nuts, fruit and soya… but that’s where I draw the line. I find it easier to not fight with people, but to simply set a charge… Bring your own food… $50 per hour. You don’t have to argue at all. And you don’t have to expect to ever collect it. If someone pulls out their own food, you simply point at the sign and ask them how they would like to pay the charge. Watch how quickly that food will disappear from the table. If they do argue, you point out that the fee is disclosed on the wall on a sign and it is the charge for the table and cleaning and the employment of the staff (to clean the table, the establishment, etc.) And that it applies to all outside food.
As for Karen and her entitlement… narcissism is a common disease at the moment. If they start to argue, you can simply say that you are willing to listen to their argument, but there is a charge for that as well, usually $20 for 15 minutes or part thereof. And if they continue, you say “Hold a minute while I get the credit card machine” and see if they really want to continue the argument. I’ve never had them continue, especially when you start to walk toward the CC machine. It also works with local telemarketers… “I’m ready for your CC number, will that be Visa or MasterCard?” They are usually too flabbergasted to say anything at that point and hang up.
Ian 11:33 on 2022-11-03 Permalink
@DeWolf also worth noting if it was a “public terrace” you wouldn’t be allowed to drink at all, you can only get away with it if you are in a park and appear to be having a picnic.