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  • Kate 17:42 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

    The family of Robert Bourassa is claiming that their mother, Andrée Simard, who died in November, was denied proper end‑of‑life care at St Mary’s Hospital. Simard was 90.

    • carswell 18:14 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

      Sounds perfectly harrowing, not to mention inhumane. Per La Presse, Dubé is now offering the government’s apologies, as I’m sure he would be doing if the deceased and her survivors weren’t famous. /s That said, how a public embarrassment can apologize for a public embarrassment is beyond me.

    • JaneyB 11:19 on 2023-01-21 Permalink

      I want to know what kind of follow-up the Ministry will do. They can ask and suggest all they like but clearly some large component of St-Mary’s has a view that end-of-life sedation is either a waste of resources, interferes with the death experience or both. It was, after all, a repeated omission and a position held strongly enough that they were willing to bar her daughters from entry to the building. People need to be fired here and more than one.

    • Kate 12:13 on 2023-01-21 Permalink

      Link to the apology story.

      JaneyB, St Mary’s was founded to be a Catholic hospital and it should be made clear how much its healthcare is inflected by Catholic ideas – such as that assisted dying is morally wrong, and people need to suffer before meeting their deity.

    • JaneyB 11:11 on 2023-01-22 Permalink

      @Kate – yeah, the Catholic heritage problem was my first thought when I read this story. Listening to that CBC video’s doctor interview made me think we really need pain specialists more than palliative care doctors. Those medics could be called in to whatever department if the doctors on duty are not sure what they can/are allowed to do for pain. Maybe some form of that exists already, but it’s not robust enough if this kind of situation is happening every day all over Quebec, as the interviewee expert indicates.

    • carswell 17:02 on 2023-01-22 Permalink

      St. Mary’s is the closest hospital to where I live and I’ve always liked its human scale, so that’s where I’ve always gone for blood tests, ophthalmology appointments and the like and kind of expected to end up if I ever need to be hospitalized. Am beginning to think it’s time to switch to the Jewish, which impressed me greatly on my three interactions with it (visits to the ER).

    • jeather 17:44 on 2023-01-22 Permalink

      The one time I went to St Mary’s was a disaster on a bunch of levels, so I wouldn’t go back there for an emergency. It has a good maternity ward, though as I recall it’s mostly shared rooms and they are pretty aggressively breast-only.

    • Kate 18:16 on 2023-01-22 Permalink

      I never had any problems at St Mary’s, which is convenient to me by being on the blue line. I was seen there briefly for an issue and they were fine.

      Some years ago a pregnant friend decided firmly not to go back there after an initial examination, as they insisted on addressing her as Mrs. Boyfriend’s Name even though she had made it clear she was not married to the baby’s father. This may have changed in recent years – I don’t know.

  • Kate 17:34 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

    CultMTL looks at the Journal de Montréal shaming P.K. Subban for not having come across with the promised $10 million for the Children’s.

    • Ephraim 18:08 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

      What’s their donation to the Children’s? What have they done to help?

    • Meezly 11:14 on 2023-01-21 Permalink

      So in 2015, Subban pledged to raise $10m in funds, yet wasn’t he traded to some US team the following year? And he still maintained his commitment to the Children’s, as well as to other Canadian charities, even though he probably wasn’t even living in Canada since his trade?

      I’m no hockey fan, and don’t follow NHL news AT ALL, but even I knew that Subban’s philanthropic efforts have been admirable! I’m glad the public seems to be taking that horrible JdM article to task!

  • Kate 11:33 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

    A recycling firm in the far east end of the island has broken environmental guidelines repeatedly for years, letting masses of material pile up, but Quebec lets them get away with it because some matters are before the courts.

    • Kate 11:24 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

      This weekend’s events from CityCrunchCultMTLSarah’s Weekend List.

      • Kate 10:10 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

        Soccer coach Sandro Grande has apologized to Pauline Marois for things he said a decade ago that got him fired from his CF Montreal job.

        CTV says Grande apologized for violent comments. Can comments be violent?

        • Kate 10:06 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

          The EMSB has a campaign going to persuade parents to sign their kids up and give them a bilingual education. There are at least 230,000 kids in Quebec who have the acquired right to get some or all of their education in English, but not all of them use it.

          • Tim S. 10:41 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            The EMSB needs to chill. Having had a child in an EMSB school, the self-promotion felt relentless. Even important messages come from an email account labelled “EMSB Marketing and Communications,” which, accurately or not, gives the impression they care more about attracting new students than the ones they already have.

          • dwgs 11:56 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            We had the right to send our kids to school in English but chose to put them in French elementary school. No regrets, they both became fluent in short order while their friends who did French immersion in the EMSB speak very little French. It’s a good idea, it just doesn’t work.

          • Tim S. 12:27 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            dwgs: growing up on the South Shore, French immersion was 80% of the day through elementary school. It wasn’t perfect, but much better than the EMSB where the day is 50/50 from grade 2 (or maybe 3?) on.

          • Kevin 12:32 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            Immersion works fine as long as the parents are onboard.

            Kids who succeed at school *without* having their parents involved are as rare as hens’ teeth.

          • dhomas 12:47 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            The school in that article does not offer a French Immersion programme. It’s a “bilingual” programme, which is distinct from the French Immersion programme offered at other EMSB schools. The French Immersion programme proposes all-French education for (pre-k,) Kindergarten, Grade 1, and Grade 2. Starting in Grade 3, it’s half and half (like in the bilingual programme). The bilingual programme is 50/50 from the onset.

            The French Immersion programme used to be quite good at EMSB (we used to see articles in the news of parents lining up to register their kids for it), but it has since been kinda watered down. According to some mandate by the EMSB, they now must include English Language Arts (ELA) even from the younger grades, which is not ideal IMO. I sent my kids to an EMSB school with French immersion and in Grade 1, they changed things around (without informing parents until 1 will into school, possibly to sniff losing clientele) and started with ELA. Their website up until a few weeks ago still said “no English instruction until Grade 3.

          • walkerp 12:48 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            To be fair, the french education at the EMSB must be a thousand times better than the english education at the CSDM if english at my child’s school is any indication.
            Ideally, families that speak french at home should send their kids to english schools and vice- versa.

          • DeWolf 14:52 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            I’ve never met anyone who went through French immersion (myself included) who didn’t need remedial help to improve their French after graduation. Immersion (which is a total misnomer) gives you an excellent framework and gets you *almost* there but the lack of diverse real-world interactions in French is a real handicap.

            At least that’s the case outside Quebec but my interactions with EMSB graduates here suggests it’s pretty much the same, because so many kids at English school live in very anglo environments like the west end or West Island. Maybe it’s different for kids going to French immersion at, say, JFK in St-Michel.

          • Blork 15:01 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            Just speculating, but I have a feeling that most EMSB “immersion” only takes place in the classroom. Outside of class, and possibly back home in and around the neighbourhood, those anglo kids are hanging out mostly with other anglo kids. Compare that with sending the kid to an actual French school, where everything is in French. Classes, cafeteria, hanging out in the halls, fights out behind the bleachers, making out at the school dance, etc. I think it’s pretty clear which is more effective.

          • Kevin 17:48 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            Does anyone but me have kids currently in immersion?
            Since birth my kids had one parent speaking English to them and the other speaking French. They went to 100% French daycares, then from K-grade 3 it was immersion, which was 100% French in the classroom. Immersion the rest of the way and the highest level AP language courses too.
            Some extra-curricular activities were French, some English, some both. At restaurants, parties, and in society they learned to speak in whatever language the other person was most comfortable.
            We pushed for at least some media to be in French too.

            My eldest is now in Cegep taking mother tongue French lit classes.

            Nobody is going to succeed in learning a language when only using it in a class.

        • Kate 09:45 on 2023-01-20 Permalink | Reply  

          The new police chief has a plan for “police de proximité” – a new idea that revives the old notion of the beat cop, an era that ended when police began to patrol exclusively in cars. The police brotherhood says they can only do it if there are a lot more hires.

          La Presse has some thoughts about what Dagher needs to tackle and CTV has a Q&A with the new chief.

          As with the nurses, aren’t the cops up against the simple issue that not enough qualifying people want the job? You can’t draft people into the police force, any more than you can force them to become nurses.

          Also, at the risk of raising a tricky issue, CBC keeps calling Fady Dagher a “person of colour” and I don’t see it. Dagher is not Québécois de souche but does that make a person a visible minority?

          • Joey 10:06 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            I think Dagher was born in Ivory Coast – his father from Lebanon, his mom from Ivory Coast (I think). As an immigrant to Quebec from West Africa with middle eastern origin, he seems pretty POC, no?

          • Kate 10:12 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            At a quick Google I see an item that says Dagher was “born and raised in Ivory Coast to parents of Lebanese descent.”

          • Kevin 10:38 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            Dagher refers to himself as a visible minority.

          • JP 10:50 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            You can be a visible minority but white passing. I know some Indian people (India) or mixed race people who definitely are white passing.

          • Ian 11:35 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            His father is Lebanese.

          • Ephraim 11:52 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            The fact that people don’t want to be police has more to do with what the brotherhood has made them, than anything else. They are a paramilitary group instead of friendly neighbourhood people who are helping to keep order. The uniforms, the cars, the brotherhood itself all conspire to make them feared, rather than respected for what they do.

            The uniforms need to go back to being more welcoming… the blue shirts were better, white would be good. Anything BUT a dark colour. And the police cars need to go back to being white rather than black. Everything that makes them feared needs to go. And that includes the flack jacket, unless it’s needed. It doesn’t make me feel secure, it makes me feel like I’m a target and it’s too dangerous to be out there on the street.

            They need to be reminded that they are NOT above the law and that everyone has cameras. And then we need to update things… we still don’t have MMS/SMS to 911. I mean, you see a criminal and you take a picture and you still need to describe them? Really? And people are notoriously bad with witness identification. We need to rethink policing completely

          • Kate 12:15 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            OK. I guess I’m being a literal-minded graphic designer here, wondering at what point in the Pantone book a person starts to become visible. Which misses the point.

          • Blork 12:53 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            “Of color” is used to refer to basically anyone who is not white European (ethnically). It can be misleading and is often incorrectly used, such as when referring to someone from Mexico who has not one iota of native DNA and who can trace their parent’s lineage back to Spain on both sides, uninterrupted. (There are many Mexicans like this.) But dumb-ass people just see “Mexico” and imagine brown people out there working in the fields, as if that’s the only kind of Mexican that exists.

            On-topic, when I see “police de proximité” I have this mental image of every citizen having an assigned police officer who follows them around 24/7, like on a fancy cruise ship where the crew to passenger ratio is 1:1.

          • Blork 14:57 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            (Although, to be fair, most people from Iberia have a fair bit of North African DNA mixed in from the era of the Moors, and while Berbers and Maghrebs are “white” on a Pantone scale, they’re not northern Europeans so therefore: color.)

          • Ephraim 15:09 on 2023-01-20 Permalink

            Kate – It changes over time… and in the US, for the Syrians, it sometimes changed year by year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States And remember that the French Catholic school board rejected both the Irish and the Italians, resulting in the separate Catholic school boards

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