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shawn 10:32 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Justin Bur at Bibliothèque Mordecai-Richler this Sunday: “Conférence : Le Mile End avant l’urbanisation : ruisseaux, chemins, tanneries, carrières, vergers”
https://montreal.ca/evenements/conference-le-mile-end-avant-lurbanisation-ruisseaux-chemins-tanneries-carrieres-vergers-43904
Kate 10:40 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Nice!
shawn 11:28 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Now Justin’s gotta be an accredited guide, no? That and a lot more I daresay? I do see him in Mile End doing this thing from time to time.
CE 11:32 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
He is an accredited guide.
Kate 11:54 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
I went on one walk Justin Bur did around the Jean-Talon market area and northern Plateau last year, or maybe 2021? Anyway, he’s good.
shawn 12:01 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
I created the French Wikipédia article on the ruisseau d’Outremont – or rather, I wrote some text and it was split off by someone else into its own article – and it’s just fascinating to think about a creek making its way through what is now Mile End and bending its way down into what is now the Lafontaine Park pond.
Kate 15:27 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Any reason it wasn’t also created on the English Wikipedia side, shawn?
Shawn Goldwater 15:41 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Well, I quit the English wiki for a couple of reasons and only work on the French side. I think that I am one of the more active Montréal editors, for better or worse. No more than that really…
Kate 15:52 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Spare my feelings, Shawn. Don’t put that accent on Montreal in English.
shawn 16:35 on 2023-04-21 Permalink
Ha. You know what, Kate, I was always sort of opposed to it in English as well. But I wonder if we’re not moving towards the day quite soon when it will become the accepted style. I see it used a lot on federal gov’t webpages now in English, but very unevenly.
Anyway, I will adhere to the Montreal City Weblog style guide!
Daisy 07:43 on 2023-04-22 Permalink
Do people who put an accent on Montreal when writing in English also pronounce it that way? Or do they write it in French and pronounce it in English?
Kate 09:38 on 2023-04-22 Permalink
See, that’s the thing, Daisy. When I see the accent I hear the name in French. I’ve never heard the name spoken as in French in the middle of English conversation, so why do it in writing? (If anyone has heard someone doing that, please tell me. But we don’t usually say “Paree” in English, so…)
shawn, there are 2 categories of people who do it like that, broadly speaking: people intent on using the “official” style in their work, and people bending over backwards to be politically correct. I was once told by some American online that they liked adding the accent because it made the city seem more exotic. Yeah.
shawn 10:30 on 2023-04-22 Permalink
Yep. I just think it’s heading that way. Like we’re now using the Kanienʼkéha language a lot in place names (tho I had no clear idea how to type that, I just copypasted it, instead of calling in Mohawk).
As for pronunciation, I realize I still pronounce it Montreal in English but I DO pronounce the province and capital Québec, even in English. No longer Kweebec. And it is 100% political correctness for sure. It was sort of this epiphany I had that the war is over and “we” lost. 🙂