Freeland quits cabinet
Chrystia Freeland has just quit her cabinet posts as minister of finance and deputy prime minister – announced in a post to X, just as the federal fall economic statement is about to drop.
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Chris 15:50 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
Good for her! Hopefully this will bring down Trudeau finally.
Ian 16:11 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
Yikes Chris, are you a PP supporter? Because that’s who’s goin to get in if Trudeau doesn’t. If he had stepped down in say, the summer, they might be back on their feet by now, but after this budget? Nope.
Kate 16:38 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
Chris might enjoy having an idiot at the helm.
Chris 17:08 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
>Yikes Chris, are you a PP supporter?
Hell no. (I appreciate that you put this in the form of a question, instead of assuming.) There is still 10 months until an election, an eternity in politics. The Liberals still have time to choose another leader, though they should have done so earlier, I agree. If they stick with Trudeau, I agree they will certainly lose.
>Chris might enjoy having an idiot at the helm.
How friendly of you to say. /s If I say I’m offended, will I get a groveling apology too? This kind of demeaning, dismissing, attitude against people you disagree with is exactly why we will end up with PP as PM. Did you learn nothing from the elections in the US? Keep belittling, keep alienating more of your countrymen, keep crying wolf that PP is the boogeyman, and see the backlash you’ll get. Many Liberals, even in their caucus, even in their cabinet, want Trudeau gone. God forbid I agree with them. Clearly the only possible reason why is that I’d prefer an idiot, because I’m an idiot too, right?
Kate 18:10 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
Actually, I thought you might enjoy shooting down PP’s expressed views and ideas, Chris.
You certainly enjoy having an idiot at the helm of this blog.
dhomas 18:30 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
At this point, I think the best option for Trudeau is to go down with the ship. The Liberals will likely lose no matter what. Trudeau losing the election gives the next Liberal leader a chance at a fresh start without a big ‘L’ out the gate.
Blork 18:40 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
I think Kamala Harris is looking for work…
Kevin 19:50 on 2024-12-16 Permalink
The only thing I know when it comes to politics is that no matter how bad it is, the conservatives make it worse for the people at the bottom.
anton 04:16 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
Here’s an idea: unscuttle electoral reform, and the conservatives won’t have absolute power.
Ian 11:57 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
At this point it would definitely be perceived negatively but could do us lasting good – provided the Conservatives didn’t simply repeal it. Then again without a clear majority in the house, maybe they couldn’t…
It would certainly help the NDP, BQ, and maybe even the Greens.
CE 12:22 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
Polievre will likely win a majority with 35-40% of the popular vote. The Liberals had a mandate to change the electoral system in such a way that the percentage of the vote would be reflected in the seat count. After this election, he will not only have blatantly lied to Canadians about fixing (or at least improving) our elections, he will have handed the country over to the most unpleasant politician I’ve seen in my lifetime.
I’ve never voted for Trudeau but I still can’t help but to feel some sadness that a government which started out with so much promise for making the country better place is going to be brought down so ignominiously. At least weed is legal I guess.
nau 17:17 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
On current polling (via the 338 website), a proportional system would help the Liberals and NDP and also the Greens if they could get above whatever minimum % threshold was used. It would absolutely not help the Bloc, whose seats it could cut almost in half. Even though prop. rep would help the Liberals right now, they’ll never do it because they’d rather the Cons win a majority under a system the Liberals expect will put them back in power in another election or two.
I can’t say that I ever thought the Liberal government had any promise. Their standard OP has always been talking progressive during election campaigns, then governing as the slightly more generous to voters wing of the Lib/Con business-first double team. Legalizing pot was a perfect issue for them. They created a new product category from which business could extract profit and the govt. could extract tax revenue. At least it removed a source of pointless criminalization of otherwise more or less law-abiding people.
thomas 17:33 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
Just want to point out that the Liberals never promised electoral reform based on proportional representation. Rather, they favoured and proposed a ranked ballot system which no other party supported.
CE 17:55 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
Trudeau said after winning his first election as Liberal leader that the election would be the last to use FPTP. The next election used FPTP and the next one will. He lied and I’ve felt stupid ever since for believing him.
Ian 21:27 on 2024-12-17 Permalink
Campaign left and govern right has been the Liberal leitmotif for generations.
Joey 11:23 on 2024-12-18 Permalink
@Thomas IIRC, Trudeau didn’t specify what would replace FPTP during the campaign, and had his democratic institutions or whatever minister (Monsef) abandon the effort when it became clear that nobody else but JT wanted a ranked ballot system – I think most Canadians, as is the case in this thread, assumed it would be some straight-up proportional representation system, presumably with party lists to determine who gets the ‘unelected but selected by proportional rep’ seats… I am increasingly sympathetic to the notion that breaking this promise was a bit of a point of no return for JT when it came to keeping his electoral commitments – and paved the way for things like the SNC Lavalin scandal, the WE charity mess (more Morneau than JT, no), etc.
Tim S. 12:32 on 2024-12-18 Permalink
The abandonment of electoral reform also tracks with the point pundits have been making that JT seems to have no concept of a future in which he is not in power – not even minimal prep for a future Liberal-leadership contest, never mind actually getting some of his policies implemented instead of perpetually kicking them off to the future. This will matter in the coming weeks.