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  • Kate 21:12 on 2025-12-08 Permalink | Reply  

    As happens from time to time, the Quebec electoral map is being redrawn according to updated population data. Montreal is set to lose one of its 27 provincial ridings and Mayor Martinez Ferrada is not happy and neither are several other worthies mentioned in the item.

    Interestingly, the item reminds us that the National Assembly voted last year to delay redistribution to preserve a riding in the Gaspésie, but last week the appeals court declared this law unconstitutional. Will Quebec resort to the notwithstanding clause if it wants to hold off riding redistribution? The rules for determining riding sizes are pretty basic to our form of democracy.

     
    • H. John 00:04 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      The notwithstanding clause, Section 33, is not an option.

      “Section 33 allows Parliament or the legislature of a province to derogate from certain sections of the Charter, namely section 2 (fundamental freedoms), sections 7 to 14 (legal rights) and section 15 (equality rights).

      It does not apply to democratic rights (section 3 — the right to vote, or sections 4 and 5 — the sitting of the House of Commons or other Canadian legislatures)….”

    • Kate 00:10 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      As always, thank you for putting me right, H. John.

    • H. John 00:29 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      Here’s the very long decision, in French:

      https://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qcca/doc/2025/2025qcca1558/2025qcca1558.html

      At the top right the is an AI analysis button that provides a précis, less than a page long, of the decision – arguments and findings.

    • Nicholas 03:56 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      The court did the right thing, and the unanimous vote of the National Assembly to not just protect this one in the Gaspé (they didn’t care about Montreal), but to delay redistricting for another four years province-wide, meaning the imbalance between ridings will last even longer, is shameful, just straight up political (not partisan) gerrymandering. Ontario did this too. This kind of thing was ruled unconstitutional in the US in 1962 (the Supreme Court of Canada ruled we don’t have “one person, one vote”, so we can get these kinds of undemocratic distributions), and if this happened in a developing country we would describe it in withering, patronizing terms, but it’s normal here and the politicians defend it!

      And to the mayor, and all the politicians complaining about losing seats: if you want more seats then build more housing and allow more people to live here.

    • jeather 07:50 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      The article said that the problem is that seats are based on the population eligible to vote, not the population.

    • Kate 10:43 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      Thank you for the decision, H. John. The AI précis button was down the left side though.

    • MarcG 10:46 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      The button is in the left side panel on desktop.

    • H. John 11:05 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      It seems the panel of buttons, which includes the AI précis, moves depending on the width of your browser window.

    • Kate 11:34 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      Thank you, H. John

      So, riding sizes are based on eligible voters, not the population. I suppose this principle is fixed, even though the mayor wants to see it based on the general population.

      I imagine Montreal would be due several more seats if that were to change, given that we’re probably the hot spot in Quebec for recent immigrants, refugees and external students all without the right to vote.

    • Nicholas 15:18 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

      Quebec provincial ridings have been based on registered voters, not population, for a long time, so nothing is changed here between the old and new maps. But it’s the east end of Montreal that lost a seat, not the more central areas where there are more non-citizens (children also aren’t counted). I highly doubt anyone will change this, but it’s possible, though it requires changes by the National Assembly. And I agree, Montreal would likely get a few more seats, as would areas with more families, likely the suburbs.

  • Kate 17:43 on 2025-12-08 Permalink | Reply  

    FLQ bomber Pierre-Paul Geoffroy has died at 81. Although condemned to 124 life sentences in 1969 for 30 bombings perpetrated around Montreal, he was out of prison again in 1981.

     
    • Kate 16:07 on 2025-12-08 Permalink | Reply  

      An 88-year-old woman was found dead outside a seniors’ residence in Laval on Monday morning.

       
      • Kate 12:05 on 2025-12-08 Permalink | Reply  

        La Presse says that tax-exempt religious buildings cost Quebec municipalities $166 million in property tax in 2025. Montreal alone loses $73 million. Arguments pro and con changing the status are presented, but nothing’s said about the many grassroots initiatives that benefit from affordable church hall facilities under the present regime, which should not lightly be thrown out.

         
        • jeather 13:02 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

          I definitely think if you sell to a non-exempt location, there needs to be a lookback about any money the government paid for repairs etc, and possibly a shorter lookback for property taxes.

        • Kate 15:39 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

          Agreed.

      • Kate 12:01 on 2025-12-08 Permalink | Reply  

        Two businesses in Lasalle were shot at overnight, although Radio‑Canada doesn’t say what the second one was. Unusually, TVA names the Salon Voodoo Lounge as a target. La Presse calls it the Vaudoo Lounge and says bluntly that it was a known mob hangout.

        Nobody was injured.

         
        • Kate 10:38 on 2025-12-08 Permalink | Reply  

          The Gazette’s Allison Hanes dissects the ludicrousness of the latest secularity bill, aka Bill 9.

          On The Rover, Christopher Curtis also finds that the PQ is becoming a party of cyberbullies.

          The comments below were made before I added the Rover piece to this entry.

           
          • EmilyG 13:00 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            Such a well-written article. Thank you for sharing.

          • jeather 13:07 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            So does that mean if there is one prepackaged ham sandwich option at the Jewish, it’s fine?

            ” Christmas parties would only be allowed in public institutions if they are completely divorced from their religious origins. So Santa is OK”
            Sure, if you happen to already believe that Santa is not religious, or Christmas trees. (Lights I think are safe.)

            This is closer than usual to calling out the saints names everywhere on schools and the crosses physically on them (not the ones that are sculpted on), though as usual it wimps out and also pretends that Christian things are secular.

          • azrhey 16:03 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            I want to know the status of the STM on all this. Because all the WatchTower people blocking the tunnels in Cote Vertu ( and lots of other stations but the CV ones are really in the way of the flow of people! ) bother me waaaay more than the nice hijabi nurse at the CLSC that gave me my shot this morning.

          • Kate 16:12 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            azrhey, please complain to the STM about those folks. They used to get in my face when I was passing through Jean‑Talon station a lot and I especially disliked having them hassle me inside the turnstiles. After I put in a complaint they seemed to be limited to the corridors (and that station has a lot of corridors) but it was better than having them blocking paying passengers between turnstile and platform.

            I don’t know whether any of the secularity laws applies to Jehovahs. They don’t wear any identifying symbols that I’ve noticed. And there’s a history here – Duplessis militated against them in his time, but I’ll have to look up the details. The CAQ may be wary of being compared too closely to the old Union Nationale.

            Oh here we go. Roncarelli v. Duplessis.

          • Mozai 17:36 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            Does this mean it’s illegal for me to put a colander on my head, as that may be proselytizing Pastafarianism and thus harming any children that see me so adorned?

          • Kate 19:31 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            You certainly wouldn’t be allowed to work as a school janitor, Mozai. I think you can still walk around in public wearing your colander, so long as you don’t pray.

            This makes me wonder – is the guy who stands on Ste‑Catherine at University with the sign going to be considered tantamount to praying in public? Here he is from a few years ago on Streetview:

          • CE 19:54 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            He’s still around. I used to see him shoot by on his scooter with all his signs at the exact same time every day. He’s dedicated! I feel like telling him to stop would come up against some charter rights but maybe the notwithstanding clause can help with that.

          • jeather 21:36 on 2025-12-08 Permalink

            Roberge said he is banking on the common sense of people.

            “We can wish someone merry Christmas. We can sing Christmas songs. This is nothing but tradition. But we shouldn’t make any references to the birth of baby Jesus,” he said. “When we wish someone merry Christmas, we can think of Santa Claus and his elves, but nothing Catholic.”

            So you can wear a colander if you are thinking about spaghetti but not if you are thinking about FSM.

          • Kate 10:14 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

            jeather, thanks for calling that out. It’s special when a government minister decides what we’re allowed to think.

            I’ve gone back to the National Assembly pages to get this in French:

            On peut souhaiter joyeux Noël à quelqu’un, on peut chanter une chanson de Noël qui est tout simplement de la tradition sans faire référence d’aucune manière à la naissance du petit Jésus, comme on dit, là. Dans… Tu sais, aujourd’hui, quand on dit «Joyeux Noël», on peut penser au père Noël et aux lutins qui n’ont rien de catholiques. Donc…

            Journaliste : Donc, le sapin, mais pas la crèche, c’est ça?

            M. Roberge : Mais savez-vous quoi? Je pense que c’est une belle illustration. C’est une belle illustration.

            Journaliste : Il y a tellement de chants de Noël qui font référence à la religion catholique.

            M. Roberge : Mais il y a quand même une différence entre chanter quelque…. puis faire une célébration religieuse, faire une prière religieuse, faire la transmission de la foi. C’est quand même des choses qui sont différentes. Je vais en appeler au bon jugement puis au raisonnement des gens. Il me semble que c’est assez évident dans ce cas-là, dans ce cas-là, oui.

            I’d like him to be grilled harder about how the celebration of the birth of baby Jesus can somehow be made not about the birth of baby Jesus. And what a creche is a “pretty illustration” of, if not the birth of the flipping baby Jesus! [Although see MarcG’s clarification below about what this last bit actually meant.]

          • Joey 14:28 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

            If the minister were actually clever, and not just trying to impersonate someone clever, he would make sure to light a Hanukkah menorah this December, since Hanukkah is not a religious holiday, but rather a nationalist one. It commemorates a post-biblical Jewish rebellion against the reigning Seleucid (aka Greek) Empire. According to the CAQ’s logic, a public celebration of Hanukkah would be just fine; whereas observing something like the ritual of Tashlich (casting breadcrumbs into a body of water on the Jewish New Year to symbolize the discarding of one’s sins) would presumably be a threat to the integrity of our secular state. Or something. It all sounds absurd, but nothing more absurd than “sing the verse about Santa but not the one about Jesus.”

            Once again I am baffled by the way in which this government trivializes the Christian faith… As if Christmas were just some shopping holiday.

          • Ian 14:39 on 2025-12-09 Permalink

            Well therein lies the rub.

            For our consumerist society to enjoy peak functionality everyone should be buying gifts and decorations regardless of their beliefs. This is, I suspect, why stuff like Santa and Yule decorations are more popular than angels and nativities.

            In my family for generations we have simply celebrated getting together, sharing meals, exchanging presents, and making merry – no religion involved whatsoever. If this is the secular holiday that people want, I can tell you it is really nice and works great. I have no problem with trivializing any faith’s input into this season as it’s effectively a moment that is marked by many religions and cultures throughout the world. If we are only worrying about hurting the feelings of Abrahamic faiths, I really don’t care. I’m more offended that we aren’t allowed to burn a Yule log.

          • SMD 07:17 on 2025-12-10 Permalink

            And here’s another commentator on the thin-skinned PSPP and his nationalism of fear: https://open.substack.com/pub/pereduchesne/p/la-souverainete-de-la-peur

          • MarcG 08:29 on 2025-12-10 Permalink

            @Kate: My interpretation of the “belle illustration” exchange is the journalist saying “So it’s ok to celebrate the tree but not the cradle” and him replying “Exactly, that’s a great example of what I mean”.

          • Tim S. 09:51 on 2025-12-10 Permalink

            How can he not be aware that song is the most basic tool of indoctrination (or teaching, if you prefer)? Has he never been to kindergarten?

          • Kate 10:04 on 2025-12-10 Permalink

            MarcG, you are right.

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