Quebec lays out new rules for Airbnb
Quebec is imposing new rules on Airbnb-type rentals as of this fall, giving operators one more summer to rake it in.
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Ephraim 10:48 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
It’s a STEP in the right direction. Especially for those in Condos…. who will have to prove that they have the permission of the co-op board. AirBnB actually gives access to the data to Barcelona… so they can do it. Barcelona actually fined AirBnB for advertising illegal accommodations. And the fines in Berlin are up to €100,000… which really made everything think twice before listing…. because one reservation online and the city just sends you the fine….
Douglas 11:31 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
I am moving to a building with strict anti airbnb rules. And I am seeing more and more high rise towers implement these rules.
Every sunday the building is a hotel lobby with suitcases.
Douglas 11:35 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
I overheard one of these airbnb operators in the elevator bragging to another airbnb operator that he has 17 apartments in the building alone.
I see him going back and forth between apartments cleaning them all the time. A freaking parasite. Management is so stupid.
Ephraim 12:02 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
Well, his business is soon over. Condos for sale…. 🙂
Ephraim 12:21 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
Oh and Douglas, for full apartments, the city also wants COMMERCIAL property taxes. These new numbers can’t be issued for full apartments, where someone doesn’t reside full-time, because they need a standard CITQ number and to get that, you need to show them your occupancy certificate. And then you have to post a rating sign outside… which means you need to pay COMMERCIAL property tax. Essentially, expect a lot of apartments to go on sale in September, or sooner.
Douglas 13:03 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
Previous management actually rented 17 apartments to 1 operator. He didn’t own them.
Lazy management didn’t want to find new tenants so every time a new apartment came up for rent, they called one of the operators.
Now there is 60+ airbnbs in my current building.
mare 15:41 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
Not that much change. You already need permission from your landlord for subletting, and a lot of condos already forbid it. And Airbnb already collects that tourism tax, the Tourist Board de commerce is apparently more powerful than Revenu Quebec.
Faiz Imam 21:08 on 2019-06-07 Permalink
its not that big a change if you are already legit, which is the goal.
But we have so much hidden, as well as “management looking the other way/dont ask dont tell” style airbnb’s that will be significantly curtailed due to this law.
Ephraim 07:53 on 2019-06-08 Permalink
Sorry, Mare, there is an important change, you have to list your permit number. The WHOLE apartment rental can’t get the $50 to $75 a year permit, even with a sublet permission, unless you actually live there… so multiple apartments, going to be a lot harder to do. You have to LIVE there. And with the permit number, they can see if you do, or if you have the apartment up for rent all the time.
mare 10:59 on 2019-06-08 Permalink
I doubt many people who occasionally rent rooms in their own apartment or residence will have that elusive permit since its existence is only mentioned in the press.
If you do a Google search or even expressly do a search on the Montreal or 311 or Revenu Quebec website you can’t find anything, all info is about the Full time permit that costs nearly $1000
Ephraim 12:21 on 2019-06-08 Permalink
Mare, that’s the point, if you don’t have the permit number listed, the government will go after you… and the fine is $2500 per day personal, $5000 per day commercial.
The full permit is NOTHING like $1000. It’s $256.28 plus $5.40 per room, though I think there is a fee for the sign, which must be legally posted. And you don’t get it from Revenu Quebec, but from the CITQ. My guess is that sites like AirBnB will start warning people and telling them to get the certificate. Or they will make the certificate number required on the listing, like they did in Vancouver. Soon after the government stepped in and starting looking at the numbers, finding those who were using their number on multiple listings, those who used someone else’s number, etc. And AirBnB was told in no uncertain terms to remove listings that didn’t have the permit number.
In Vancouver, AirBnB hands over all the data related to rentals and you can’t rent unless you agree to them sharing the data. I havent’ read the law, but my guess is… it’s coming.