Pivot has a piece about two fatal police shootings last weekend, of which media coverage was minimal, and nothing posted about the incidents since.
I’m still puzzled by this Gazette piece from last weekend, which lists two such incidents in VSMPE, although they may have been mistaken when this was posted. The Pivot piece mentions a shooting in a Ville‑Marie apartment building and another in St‑Michel. A later edit of the Gazette piece seems to correct the first story – but without proper editions, newspapers don’t publish explicit corrections any more.
Update: My MNA, Andrés Fontecilla, posted on Facebook Sunday that he attended a march for Abisay Cruz, one of the men shot dead by police. He cites three fatal police shootings on the weekend, but gives no details.
bob 02:16 on 2025-04-06 Permalink
Impressive. Got the call, and three minutes later the guy was dead.
SMD 11:56 on 2025-04-06 Permalink
There was a street protest in Saint-Michel with repression by riot police; video here: https://www.reddit.com/r/montreal/comments/1jpydc5/tuesdays_vigil_in_saint_leonard_for_man_murdered/. Another vigil is planned for this afternoon. No mention in the media yet…
Kate 12:18 on 2025-04-06 Permalink
Thanks, SMD
Chris 12:36 on 2025-04-06 Permalink
>No mention in the media yet
They’re probably trying to get actual facts first. That reddit poster is clearly very biased, doesn’t seem to understand what the word ‘murder’ means for starters.
Ian 16:10 on 2025-04-07 Permalink
from Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
Homicide
222 (1) A person commits homicide when, directly or indirectly, by any means, he causes the death of a human being.
Marginal note:Kinds of homicide
(2) Homicide is culpable or not culpable.
Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
Classification of murder
231 (1) Murder is first degree murder or second degree murder.
Marginal note:Planned and deliberate murder
(2) Murder is first degree murder when it is planned and deliberate.
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Second degree murder
(7) All murder that is not first degree murder is second degree murder.
TL;DR:
Sounds like murder to me, binky.
Chris 20:25 on 2025-04-07 Permalink
“binky”? You can’t make an argument without grade school name calling, eh?
Your cherry picked quotations about murder are mostly circular; interesting that you omitted section 229. Murder basically requires the killing to be *deliberate*. The police quite possibly used too much force, fucked up generally, etc. But the chance these deaths were deliberate, as opposed to accidental, is very unlikely. But of course police-haters will trump up their rhetoric to use exaggerated words like ‘murder’. It doesn’t help their case. If they’re trying to convince others, they should be less histrionic.
Ian 20:42 on 2025-04-07 Permalink
I was aiming for playful, but salty, I like it.
It’s difficult to call this an accidental killing unless you’re a cop apologist, but I guess you are.
Some animals are more equal than others, eh?