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  • Kate 14:32 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

    Developers have their eye on the lumberyard in Petite-Patrie for intensive construction up to 25 storeys, allowed for in the city’s Plan d’urbanisme et de mobilité 2050.

    Interesting footnote about an artifact in the lumberyard: the totem pole visible in the second photo was sent by the Squamish nation in B.C. because of their contacts with the business, which was founded in 1875. This item says the totem pole has become a symbol of the neighbourhood, which I had not previously heard about. Presumably it will be saved and put into a favourable spot when the highrises go up.

     
    • DeWolf 14:50 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      I’d always wondered about the totem pole. Interesting history!

      I hope more than just the totem pole can be preserved. There’s a lot of potential to do something interesting with the site even if it’s being redeveloped.

    • walkerp 15:01 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Why are they targetting that section? Why not develop over the Home Depot which is way bigger and has a massive parking lot and hires like 3 people? Villeneuve has actual experienced employees who know what they are talking about.

    • Nicholas 16:37 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Presumably the Home Depot doesn’t want to sell.

    • walkerp 17:37 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      But according to the article, neither does Villeneuve.

    • DeWolf 18:47 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Villeneuve owns the land. Nobody is going to force them out. If they decide to redevelop the property, it will be on their own terms.

    • Ian 20:50 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      I didn’t realize that totem pole was authentic, that’s actually pretty cool. I also didn’t realize they had such history.

      I get a feeling that these developer wet dreams are on par with the luxury hotel planned for the old warehouse on Van Horne. Like as in, don’t hold your breath.

    • Kate 08:18 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      I see on the public art site that there’s a totem pole at the Loyola campus of Concordia. Then there’s the magnificent one on Île Notre‑Dame, a relic of Expo 67. And this one, at Villeneuve.

      The pole that was outside the Museum of Fine Arts was sent home awhile back.

      Are there any others?

    • Chris 09:18 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      I wonder why their sign says “L Villeneuve & Cie (1973) Ltee” if they are in fact a century older?

    • Ian 09:40 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      Maybe they mean at that location…

    • Chris 09:44 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      I hope not, since “Le fournisseur de matériaux de rénovation a déménagé en 1907 à son adresse actuelle, à l’angle de Bellechasse et Saint-Laurent.”

    • Kate 11:53 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      Years ago, my father told me that a business name with a year in parentheses meant that it was a point when bankruptcy was declared and the business had to be refounded. I hasten to add that I have no idea whether this is true – and I mean to cast no shade on a venerable outfit like Villeneuve – but maybe it has something to do with reconstituting and re‑registering a business at that point for any reason.

    • Chris 11:55 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      Yeah, probably something like that. But if I owned such a long-standing business, I would want to tout the 1875 date.

    • Nicholas 12:12 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      Kate, the Westmount greenhouse always had a totem pole, though I’m not sure if it’s still there.

      The bankruptcy thing could be, but then it might have left the family. It is almost surely a reconstituting, maybe bankruptcy, but as you say could be another purpose. For example, for tax reasons it might make sense for the son taking over to form a new company and use it to buy the old one rather than buying it themselves. But whatever the reason, you want to distinguish it from the older company, and adding the current year makes sense.

    • Ian 13:07 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      @Chris sure but then you get stuff like QDC burgers claiming to have been on Saint Viateur since 1998 which is totally not true – they opened their first location in 1998. I am sure that wherever they relocate to since that one closed will claim the same date of founding.

    • DeWolf 16:20 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      QDC Burger on St-Viateur closed? I hadn’t even noticed. Happy news.

    • Ian 16:44 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      That’s what their site says, I was just checking to see when they were “founded”. The chain café across from them closed too. Good riddance 😉

    • Dwgs 08:27 on 2025-07-23 Permalink

      When I lived in Mile End in the early 90s you could still see the spur lines off the railway that went right into the woodsheds. They weren’t being used at that time but it gives you an idea how much business they did and why they chose that location way back when..

  • Kate 13:55 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

    The camp on Notre-Dame East has been given a month’s extension to exist without eviction – actually a little more, if the coda saying that the question will be back in court on August 27 is accurate.

     
    • Ian 16:45 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      There’s a great parking lot they can camp on apparently

  • Kate 13:39 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

    A Montreal woman has been found guilty of terrorism but sentenced to a single day of prison. This epic story explains how this came about.

    See below about the sentence.

     
    • Nicholas 14:10 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      The crown and defence jointly recommended a one day sentence (plus probation), but the judge hasn’t imposed a sentence yet, and will take it under advisement.

    • Kate 16:04 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Do they calculate in that Oumaima Chouay has two daughters who would probably have to go to foster homes if she’s imprisoned, or is that not supposed to figure into the balance?

    • H. John 16:11 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      From what I’m reading she has been sentenced:

      “Ms. Chouay was sentenced to a one-day custodial sentence in addition to the 110 days served before pre-trial, and a three-year probation order. In addition to a number of conditions related to her avoiding all direct or indirect contact with people and entities associated to extremism, she will be required to continue her participation in depolarization therapy. ”
      https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/oumaima-chouay-sentenced-following-a-guilty-plea-813854624.html

    • Nicholas 23:43 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      It seems the article has been updated with the sentence being accepted. I guess the advisement was quick!

  • Kate 10:04 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

    La Presse has found out why a project to transform the old Chinese hospital in Villeray is held up: the owner of an adjoining building, a notary, has made a claim on part of its parking lot which he says he has been using.

    I wasn’t aware that if you use a piece of land for ten years that gives you a legal claim on it regardless of its previous state of ownership. But this item has a sidebar explaining “prescription acquisitive” clearly enough.

     
    • Blork 10:20 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      That’s basically “squatter’s rights,” or “adverse possession.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession

    • Kate 10:42 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Shoe dropped. I’ve walked around that area a lot, and I just reviewed it on Streetview.

      The building doesn’t have a parking lot. There’s an alley that separates it from the rows of triplexes on St‑Denis and Drolet, but no open lot. Is this notary basing his claim on having parked his car in the alley beside that building for ten years?

    • Blork 11:11 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      That alley is wider than normal alleys, and there’s room for about four cars to park (in a line) without obstructing the alley, so I guess that bit of the alley is technically a parking lot.

      It’s absurd that the whole project is delayed because of this claim. You’d think that squatter’s rights/adverse possession would apply to spaces where people are actually living, not just where they park their car or dump their stuff.

    • Blork 11:13 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Specifically: https://maps.app.goo.gl/fygARiz6pUSdr6Kp7

      You can see that the parking area is not the alley (based on the wider part of the building farther in).

    • Kate 13:28 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      It would take a notary to think of using that strip of land to deny the city the ability to convert that building for dozens of possible residents.

    • Ian 20:52 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

      Pretty wild that some notary can play this hand just for free private parking but when homeless people actually try to squat abandoned buildings they get jail time. Like Audre Lorde said, “.. the master’s tool will never dismantle the master’s house. They may allow us temporarily to beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change.”

    • Chris 12:02 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      Not sure that comparison is quite right. Seems he didn’t just “_try_ to squat”, but _succeeded_. If the building owner cared, why didn’t they just call the parking agency and get him ticketed day after day? If a building owner cares about homeless squatting, and never called it in after 10 years, I’m not so sure they’d get jail time as you say. i.e. the difference is not ‘poor homeless’ vs ‘rich notary’, it’s enforcing after a few days vs a decade.

    • steph 12:46 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      Can the notary actually prove he’s been parking his car there for 10 years? I only see that white car parked there as far back as 2020 (google streetview history)

    • Ian 13:11 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

      @Chris it’s easier to “get away” with parking compared to living somewhere. If that’s all it takes though…

      I would have thought that eminent domain would trump this claim but maybe not.

  • Kate 09:56 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

    A nine-year-old Montreal girl reported missing in New York state has been found dead there, and her father has been arrested by American authorities. There are a lot of reports about Luciano Frattolin but I’ve seen no mention of who or where her mother was.

     
    • Kate 08:50 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

      A block of rue St‑André that runs parallel to Plaza St‑Hubert has become an urban hell, with “une faune de rôdeurs – proxénètes, prostituées, trafiquants, toxicomanes et sans-abri” hanging around at all hours. Police have just swooped down on a low‑life bar and peep show cinema that have been the kernel of the problem for a long time.

      I have friends who recently moved away from that block after they tired of hearing screaming and shouting outside at all hours, and people nodding off in their doorway.

      Given that station 35 is down at the next corner, the police took their time.

      A video report from Radio-Canada puts a slightly more positive spin on the situation, but it’s difficult to know whether this is the local councillor trying to buff things up a bit.

       
      • Ephraim 09:56 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        People don’t realize, the way to get the cops to act faster is to call and report more. So you talk to the neighbours and make sure everyone knows to report and call more often. Because what the police are really sensitive about, is your ruining their statistics.

      • walkerp 10:07 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        Still took them 5 years to act.

        How does “rôdeurs” translate into english? The online dictionaries say “prowlers” and “rangers” but that can’t be right.

      • Kate 10:47 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        Wiktionnaire defines the verb rôder: “Errer avec une intention hostile ou suspecte. Errer sans but précis ou au hasard.” So, something between loitering and prowling, hanging around with no clear plan but an eye on possible skulduggery, I think.

      • Ian 10:59 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        How about “skulker”?

      • Blork 13:10 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        Upvote for “skulker.”

      • DeWolf 14:53 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        Mellön is a great place, it’s a shame to hear the (very genial) staff and owners have to deal with that kind of unpleasantness.

      • Kate 15:00 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        I was thinking of that too, DeWolf. I assume Mellön has effective bouncers, but then they also may be losing business because people don’t feel so comfortable in the area.

        The hot spot that was raided is closer to the other end of the block, at least.

        DW and I met each other by chance at Mellön recently. Great place.

      • Ephraim 18:53 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        @walkerp They weren’t complaining enough and didn’t get some newspapers, TV etc to come and visit. We used to coordinate calls from all the neighbours to the cops, so that the whole street ended up calling them. Each report is part of the stats.They repeatedly tried to get us to stop calling. We never stopped. The news showed up and the very next day we had two cars stationed on the street and patrols.

        There are also OTHER ways to solve some of the problems. In particular, for prostitutes, you change the directions of the streets so that it’s difficult to get back to the street. So you can’t simply circle for “shopping” purposes. If it’s inconvenient for customers, they don’t want to be there, either.

        Which of course brings back the question of why we don’t have a specific place for such nonsense. In some countries they have special parking lots for this. Away from children, often with a security guard or police. You are required to pull forward into a spot, which gives you cover for anything happening in the car. The driver’s side has a wall right next to it. The passenger side, doesn’t. So if they feel threatened, they can open the door and run, but the driver cannot. It’s so much more effective to actually build intentionally for such things than to try to be an ostrich with the head in the sand.

      • DeWolf 16:22 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

        @Kate As far as I can tell Mellön doesn’t have any kind of security. Which is the case for most brewpubs since they usually don’t attract a rowdy crowd.

      • Ian 11:13 on 2025-07-26 Permalink

        I take it back, skulker is good but I think prowler would be more correct.

    • Kate 08:21 on 2025-07-21 Permalink | Reply  

      An explanation of why the St. Lawrence is so dangerous.

       
      • Nicholas 13:59 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        It doesn’t really explain why there aren’t swimming places on the Back River. I’ve kayaked and rowed around Cartierville many times, and the river has lots of calm places. Even though much of it is privately owned, there are places you could have swimming.

      • Kate 16:02 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        It’s arguable that the city doesn’t pay as much attention to the Back River boroughs as it should.

      • Ian 20:57 on 2025-07-21 Permalink

        There are a lot of spots though, you can rent boats, even. There’s a lot of parks in Ahuntsic that go right to the water, completely unsupervised. I often visit Perry Island, for instance, a short walk fron the end of Acadie. Perry Island even has a small beach and picnic tables.It’s right by the bike path – which also goes through a really nice park right there that also has a couple of waterfront spots including small beaches and sitting areas.

      • Kate 09:57 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

        A regular reader of this blog, who will remain nameless, has told me about going swimming in the Back River from some unofficial spot, and they can’t be the only one doing this.

      • DeWolf 16:23 on 2025-07-22 Permalink

        The Back River is gorgeous but the water quality is much worse than many of the swimming spots along the St Lawrence, at least based on city data.

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