Anti-vaxxers march again
Anti-vaxxers marched Saturday afternoon claiming to be in support of the unvaccinated healthcare workers who will not be allowed to work as of October 15.
Nor should they be. But we’d all be well advised not to get acutely ill anytime soon. It’s bound to be a shitshow.
Max 19:49 on 2021-10-10 Permalink
Fuck every last one of these bullshit-consuming retards. The media really ought to publicize these demos in advance better. Then perhaps some of the more rational, normal-thinking of us might show up with balloons full of piss, paint, vomit or worse to lob at them. Being an anti-social cunt should come with consequences.
Ephraim 22:13 on 2021-10-10 Permalink
As they say, COVID is airborne, but it’s spread by assholes
Max 23:04 on 2021-10-10 Permalink
Ignorant fucking abnormals. Put them all to death before their stupid selfish disease spreads.
Daisy 08:37 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
Max, that sounds an awful lot like hate speech. (With a misogynistic slur for good measure.)
Janet 08:47 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
Spewing bile might make Max feel better but it adds nothing to a “rational, normal-thinking” discussion.
jeather 10:37 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
I actually happened to see them setting up for the march. I first saw a sign saying something like “We hate Legault” and got curious, then read the other signs (from across the street) and nope.
Still betting the number of people fired will be a lot lower than threatened.
dhomas 11:50 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
You know, I’m known to have an outburst every now and again (see below, re: Dubé). But this seems excessive. As much as I am against pretty much everything these guys stand for (except maybe their anti-Legault sentiments ;p), I don’t think it’s productive to resort to name-calling. We’ll never change people’s minds by being aggressive to them. It’s difficult, but eventually we’ll have to find some kind of solution to this problem. And yelling at it won’t work.
Someone else here has said something like this, but in this case, maybe it makes some sense to make these people, who work in our healthcare system, work exclusively in COVID wards. They will see first-hand how real the disease is, and maybe that will change their perspective. It probably wouldn’t be ethical to do this, though, to people who are known to be unvaccinated.
Tee Owe 14:33 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
I would guess that many of the anti-vaxxers have actually been vaccinated (polio, MMR, yellow fever to go to Phuket, HPV for their kids, flu maybe) – could be worthwhile to engage them on that level? As I see it, not all of them are against vaccination per se, their problem is with Covid vaccines and their imposition on society – and there may be a valid point for discussion there. For the record, I am double-jabbed, got my flu jab today, and I see vaccination as our way out of this mess – I also find it annoying that there are people who hold that effort back. But I agree with dhomas, we need to find a meeting point, not hurl insults at each other.
Kate 18:49 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
I haven’t met many anti-vaxxers, having sensible friends, but I encountered one woman this summer who was bragging that she wouldn’t be vaccinated. I raised with her the points that vaccination is not a new idea (she thought it was ‘too experimental’), that vaccination was the reason we no longer fear smallpox or polio, and that for certain injuries one’s always given a tetanus booster as a precaution, but I could see it was fruitless to argue.
I know there are people who won’t give their kids MMR or other childhood vaccinations. Is anyone determined enough not to receive, or allow their kid to receive, a tetanus shot, after particular kinds of injury?
Max 22:53 on 2021-10-11 Permalink
For your viewing pleasure, crackers galore.
https://i.imgur.com/wYyq0yA.jpg
I fail to understand how anyone can be tolerant of these retards and their ignorant views. They’re putting every last one of you and your loved ones at risk of death (or long Covid, which sounds to me like it could be even worse) for the sake of their own small-minded misinformed irrational selfish self-interest.
Fuck every single last one of them. These people are the rock-bottom scum of our society. Whether it’s violence, extermination, or throwing their asses in jail, I’m 100% behind whatever measures it takes to put these dumb fucks in their place. They don’t deserve to be part of civilized society.
ant6n 05:09 on 2021-10-12 Permalink
Well, one argument I hear is that vaccination against (for example) polio makes sense because the disease is truly dangerous and the vaccine works 100%, but covid is less dangerous (kills only a few old people or fat ppl) and the vaccine protection is only N%, where N is assumed by the person to be some pretty small number. And given how the covid vaccine uses mRNA technology where we don’t know the long term effects, the dangers to a young, healthy person is smaller without the vaccine. Also, natural teas and vitamins will make your body so strong that corona won’t effect u. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I didn’t like the argument, because when I pointed out that also young people can get it with bad results, as experienced by me personally, I was getting fat shamed.
Tee Owe 08:20 on 2021-10-12 Permalink
Ant6n – the fact that the Covid vaccines all came from ‘a lab’ whereas the others are ‘from your doctor’ may contribute to suspicion. Also, the scientific community have been super-accurate with numbers about efficacy, which as you point out are always less than 100% – incidentally, also true for polio vaccine, where 2 shots or doses give ‘above 90% protection’ IOW less than 100%. I like Kate’s point about tetanus shots – how many people remember that you need 5 jabs for immunity (Wikipedia). And who would refuse a rables vaccine if bitten by a dog that was foaming at the mouth? But I’m preaching to the choir. There’s a recent study from France, of over 22 million people – Covid vaccination significantly reduced disease severity and deaths in people over 50
https://www.epi-phare.fr/rapports-detudes-et-publications/impact-vaccination-covid-octobre-2021/
These facts need to get around more
jeather 10:07 on 2021-10-12 Permalink
Do these people not know that most cases of polio were, indeed, asymptomatic, and only in about 1 in 200 did it affect the nervous system? (I think post-polio also includes some asymptomatic cases but am not sure.) And two shots of the polio vaccine are not 100% effective, and of course the initial vaccines — which people took! — were less effective still.
ant6n 12:01 on 2021-10-12 Permalink
Yeah I think it’s best not to tell them that otherwise they won’t vaccinate their kids at all…
jeather 12:17 on 2021-10-12 Permalink
The “only 1 in 200 people who got polio had neurological or muscular symptoms at all” fact seems relevant though.
EmilyG 15:15 on 2021-10-12 Permalink
A bit upsetting that a slur keeps getting permitted on this blog.