I understand not duplicating the green line, but now you’re at 3 modes to get downtown: bus to tram to metro. That’s a lot, and if it’s not actually well synchronized (and it won’t be, in practice), it’s not going to be all that well received.
I’m not sure most people will be taking a bus to the tram. Based on the routing, nearly everyone in Lachine will be within a 10 minute walk of the tramway. The route along Dollard and Newman in LaSalle also catches a fairly significant number of people within a short walk, and those corridors are also slated for high-density development so there will many more residents in the future. I would be surprised if the STM cancels the routes that already feed into Angrignon from parts of LaSalle that wouldn’t be accessible by tram.
That said I also agree that the ARTM saying they don’t want to double up the green line is a very bad excuse. They have no foresight – before the pandemic we were talking about the metro reaching its saturation point, and just because ridership is down post-Covid doesn’t mean it won’t once again reach capacity in the future. (Especially if the population keeps growing the way it has.) By then we will have wasted several opportunities to build redundancy.
What really would have been perfect was a metro extension, especially with the blue line extension already underway. One of the reasons transit projects here are so expensive is because they’re so infrequent we don’t have any cost efficiencies that come from continual expansions the way they’re doing it in Paris (or the way Spain is able to build so much transit so cheaply).
They can deal with it like the rest of the south shore did when the rem was added to our commute. Bus to rem to metro is daily for me. And knowing artm they’ll route busses to the tram just so it gets used more and they can show how successful it is.
jeather 12:23 on 2024-08-31 Permalink
I understand not duplicating the green line, but now you’re at 3 modes to get downtown: bus to tram to metro. That’s a lot, and if it’s not actually well synchronized (and it won’t be, in practice), it’s not going to be all that well received.
Blork 14:29 on 2024-08-31 Permalink
I agree. It’s ok (good even) to build redundancy into transit.
DeWolf 14:45 on 2024-08-31 Permalink
I’m not sure most people will be taking a bus to the tram. Based on the routing, nearly everyone in Lachine will be within a 10 minute walk of the tramway. The route along Dollard and Newman in LaSalle also catches a fairly significant number of people within a short walk, and those corridors are also slated for high-density development so there will many more residents in the future. I would be surprised if the STM cancels the routes that already feed into Angrignon from parts of LaSalle that wouldn’t be accessible by tram.
That said I also agree that the ARTM saying they don’t want to double up the green line is a very bad excuse. They have no foresight – before the pandemic we were talking about the metro reaching its saturation point, and just because ridership is down post-Covid doesn’t mean it won’t once again reach capacity in the future. (Especially if the population keeps growing the way it has.) By then we will have wasted several opportunities to build redundancy.
What really would have been perfect was a metro extension, especially with the blue line extension already underway. One of the reasons transit projects here are so expensive is because they’re so infrequent we don’t have any cost efficiencies that come from continual expansions the way they’re doing it in Paris (or the way Spain is able to build so much transit so cheaply).
Uatu 16:14 on 2024-08-31 Permalink
They can deal with it like the rest of the south shore did when the rem was added to our commute. Bus to rem to metro is daily for me. And knowing artm they’ll route busses to the tram just so it gets used more and they can show how successful it is.