On white supremacy in the armed forces
A must-read: Nora Loreto on white supremacy in the armed forces: “White men have murdered more people in the name of far right extremism than any other subset in Canadian society. And still the CBC has to make sure that Canadians are more afraid of brown people than white.”
Meezly 13:48 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
Loreto seems to be onto something, but I feel like there should be more supporting material for her arguments. She’s claiming that Gurski, a former CSIS analyst and president of a security risk consulting firm is “objectively untrue” when he says that “the greater threat of violent extremism comes from Islamist groups” and his “real crime is trying to launder the reputation of white extremists in the virtual pages of the public broadcaster. And that broadcaster defends it.”
But she doesn’t provide any further examples or evidence of how they are pushing this agenda or why. What are their possible motivations? Are they also upholding white supremacy, consciously or unconsciously? Or is there a reason for minimizing the threat of far right extremism? I understand Loreto may be an independent journalist, so may lack funding and time to go deeper, but this warrants further research!
Chris 14:10 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
This author seems confused:
“…the biggest threat to Jews in Canada was the far right, CBC’s Elizabeth Thompson sought out comment from a man who insisted that, actually, the threat comes from Radical Islam…”
Radical Islam ***is*** far-right. I guess her definition of “far right” seeks to include only the “white” variety, and not the “brown” variety? Islamism is socially conservative, authoritarian, theocratic, anti-pluralism, anti-gay, nationalist, sectarian, etc., etc. These are all right-wing traits.
Chris 14:13 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
> I understand Loreto may be an independent journalist
Her own website does not describe her as such. It says “Writer. Activist. Podcaster.” Activists have agendas, not aspirations to unbiased reporting.
Josh 14:26 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
Hard agree with everything Chris says.
Nicholas 14:51 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
When I first heard this story I was worried, until I saw the photos: a bunch of sad men cosplaying saving the world by “taking land near Quebec City by force” (they gonna take a barn? disrupt the strawberry harvest?). The Mounties got their men, their weapons were seized last year, they had…imminent plans? Vague plans? Concepts of plans? They advertised their terrorism recruitment on Instagram? Two digit numbers of posts, four digit numbers of followers, good chance most were gun nuts from abroad? Not saying there aren’t issues with right wing extremism (which Chris points out should include radical Islamists), but if this is “the largest cache of weapons and components in any terrorism incident in Canadian history,” well, I’ll sleep pretty soundly tonight.
jeather 15:08 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
Whether radical Islam should be considered far right or not, currently we consider far right extremism to be based on a Christian extremism and not part of the same category as Islamic extremism.
I think this — which I have not fact checked — seems to be the overall upshot: Indeed, white men have murdered more people in the name of far right extremism than any other subset in Canadian society.
Kevin 19:31 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
The FBI has long said that White extremists are a bigger threat to the US than any foreign terrorist. The attempt to kidnap and kill Gov. Whitmer, Waco, McVeigh, lynchings… the list is endless.
We have similarities in Canada, what with Bissonnette and Veltman.
What’s notable about these four recent arrests is how they allegedly acquired their weapons by stealing them from the Armed Forces, and really how overt they were.
There are a lot of slightly smarter but just as bigoted people in positions where they have the sheen of authority in using force.
bob 20:30 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
Radical Islamism shares very little with the Western right wing. Each generally considers the other as evil incarnate.
Loreto is an activist whose politics are quite radical. She seems to want to deflect accusations of antisemitism against the radical left anti-Israel movement by claiming that the traditional right wing is the real threat (like in this: https://noraloreto.substack.com/p/instrumentalizing-antisemitism-again). It’s a kind of zero-sum thing where if one is worse the other is not so bad. But, of course, the recent rise in antisemitism owes more to sympathies with Islamist entities than to Christian nationalists or white supremacists.
@Nicholas – Anders Brievik is a sad cosplaying man, and he managed to murder 77 people in one day, more than half of them teenagers.
Kate 20:52 on 2025-07-10 Permalink
I don’t remember ever promising to only link to unbiased reporting.
Joey 08:01 on 2025-07-11 Permalink
“But, of course, the recent rise in antisemitism owes more to sympathies with Islamist entities than to Christian nationalists or white supremacists.”
The richest man in the world bought the most influential media platform in the world and turned it into a white supremacist propaganda machine. Thank u next.
Interestingly (and not in the good way), the one area where the Christian extremists and Muslim extremists are *perfectly* aligned is how they consider and treat women.