Covid hospitalizations are up
Covid hospitalizations are rising across Canada with admissions close to last winter’s.
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MarcG 17:57 on 2023-10-18 Permalink
Bogoch is the worst. I see 2 obvious bits of misinformation from him in that article:
“We’re going to see a rise in COVID-19 as the summer turned to fall, just as we’ve seen every year since COVID emerged”. This statement creates the false impression that the virus has become seasonal or at the very least fallen into some kind of predictable pattern. Waves have started in September 2020, March 2021, August 2021, Decemeber 2021, March 2022, July 2022, October 2022, and August 2023.
“COVID is not even remotely close now, even with that rise in hospitalizations, to what we saw in 2020 and 2021”. There are currently 3797 people hospitalized. In 2020 the max was 4281
and 2021 it was 4930. I personally consider 88% and 77% “remotely close” but I guess that’s the beauty of using non-scientific language.
Chris 19:10 on 2023-10-18 Permalink
Regarding “COVID is not even remotely close now…” Where’s the lie?
He’s clearly talking about in totality, not only hospitalization numbers alone. Trusting your numbers, ok, the hospitalization numbers are indeed ‘remotely close’, but that’s not the whole story. There’s also non-hospitalized numbers to consider too. Those too were a strain on the health system. Just because someone didn’t get hospitalized doesn’t mean they didn’t visit a clinic, need meds, etc. Vaccination rates and natural immunity numbers were also very different then and now.
MarcG 09:33 on 2023-10-19 Permalink
Unforunately you can’t just say things and they magically become true. What evidence is that statement based on?
10% of health-care workers in Quebec have suffered from long COVID since the start of the pandemic. 71% of that subset said that their state of health now interferes with their ability to work, and 16% said that they are now often unable to work. 20% said they had missed at least four weeks of work in the past year, twice as many as among workers without long COVID. A similar proportion consider themselves to have a “poor or very poor” ability to perform the physical or intellectual demands of their job. The majority of cases of long COVID in health-care workers were detected in employees who had been infected with the virus since the emergence of the Omicron variant, who had been vaccinated, and whose state of health had not required hospitalisation. (link)
A study on Canadian hospital staffing and hospital harm trends throughout the pandemic concludes: Rates of harm to patients increased along with rates of staff absenteeism, overtime and use of agency staff. Across Canada, the rate of hospital harm increased to 5.9% in 2020–2021 and 6% in 2021–2022 and 2022–2023 after remaining stable between 5.3% and 5.4% since 2014. In 2022–2023, 1 in 17 patients admitted to hospital was unintentionally harmed during their stay. (link).
Chris 09:53 on 2023-10-19 Permalink
>Unforunately you can’t just say things and they magically become true.
Well duh. Where is the author doing that? Or did you mean me?
>What evidence is that statement based on?
Which statement?
MarcG 10:05 on 2023-10-19 Permalink
If the statement “COVID is not even remotely close now…” is not based on hospitalization numbers, what is it based on? He provides no support. You suggest it has something to do with less non-hospitalization-related strains on the health system but provide no evidence.
MarcG 11:31 on 2023-10-19 Permalink
“Estimated excess mortality dipped in January and February, but the latest 2023 figures indicate it is about 15% to 20% higher than it was in 2020 and 2021, according to Tara Moriarty, an infectious-disease researcher and co-founder of the grassroots group COVID-19 Resources Canada. That’s considerably lower than in 2022, “which was a horrific, really, really bad year in Canada, but it’s still higher than the first few years of the pandemic,” she said.
In other countries such as Britain and France, which have timely death-reporting systems, almost all excess mortality can be explained by COVID-19 deaths, Dr. Moriarty said. The two numbers match up fairly closely to each other.” (link)
Chris 19:49 on 2023-10-19 Permalink
Your link explicitly says they don’t know where the (estimated!) excess deaths are coming from. But you choose to believe they come from covid. Why not choose to believe one of the other ideas they mention, that it could be from the mental-health effects of the pandemic?, or the catching up of delays in treatment of other ailments while they forced society to close down?
So what are you arguing then, that covid is killing and hospitalizing as much as ever?, i.e. that the vaccines don’t live up to their hype after all? 🙂
MarcG 21:40 on 2023-10-19 Permalink
Mental-health effects and delayed treatments continue to pile-up because of the ongoing pandemic (see stats above regarding health care workers). So yes, deaths related to those factors I would attribute to the Covid pandemic even if the deaths themselves are not from the virus.
MarcG 09:16 on 2023-10-20 Permalink
I’m surprised that I have to repeat this but ok: I am arguing that the statement “COVID is not even remotely close now to what we saw in 2020 and 2021” is vague and needs to be supported by evidence but neither the speaker, nor you, has provided any.