Masks to be mandatory on public transit
Wearing a mask will be mandatory on public transit in Quebec starting soon.
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Chris 18:26 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
Wow. Draconian. Didn’t think they’d go that far.
Dhomas 18:29 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
They should make them mandatory in malls and stores, too. It’s immensely frustrating to see others with no masks while I’m wearing mine. I’m not doing it to protect myself; I’m doing it to prevent spreading the virus to others should I have it and not know it yet. It would be nice if others would have the same courtesy towards me.
Chris 18:50 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
So is that the new rule? One can’t do anything that might have the slightness possibility of negative consequence on anyone else? Because I see people smoking in parks, worsening my asthma. I see people driving cars, killing the planet. I see people over-consuming purchasing useless crap, killing the planet. Those actions hurt others. They get to carry on with that why? But one can’t take a bus in one’s natural state?
Kate 19:05 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
Chris, your tendency to push points to the extreme is showing again.
Right here, right now, we have a specific proven problem which we can help by wearing a bit of cloth over the face. It’s easy to do. Are you saying that because we don’t all live like selfless saints that we should not bother to take any means that might improve the general lot?
walkerp 19:15 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
Yes, Chris, this is all about you.
What we are seeing is this incredible immaturity among grown people who cannot be told no. They are so stunted in their social growth that they cannot conceive of anything that might hinder them from doing whatever they want now as having any value. It is literally the mentality of a toddler and anybody who has parented recognizes it right away.
Imagine raging about your “freedom” during WWII because you couldn’t buy any sugar.
I must blame poor education, the culture of consumerism and individualism of the post-war years and finally accelerated by social media quite recently.
Matthew H 19:54 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
No, one can’t take a bus in one’s natural state. One is required to wear pants, for obvious hygenic reasons. Similarly, during an unprecedented global pandemic which has killed half a million people, one is now also required to wear a mask. Get over it.
qatzelok 20:48 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
I’m not sure that it’s really helpful to wear a mask AFTER a virus has circulated and done its thing.
Perhaps this is the same social dynamic as media viewers shaming people into wearing bike helmets a few years ago – because you know better because you’re so media addicted..
DeWolf 23:04 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
A couple of months ago, I was optimistic that people would wear masks voluntarily with enough encouragement, but I was wrong. People are being weirdly bullheaded about this, and perhaps some of the responses in this thread explain why. At this point I think it’s necessary to make them mandatory – and not just in public transit, but also in any indoor public space.
Many other places have made them mandatory in all public spaces, including outdoors, which I think is extreme and unenforceable. But requiring them indoors seems like a no-brainer.
Mark Côté 23:20 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
“AFTER a virus has circulated and done its thing”
I feel like making a Stephen-Hawking-style bet and take someone up on this. Either the virus is actually done and I’ll happily pay out some sum of money, or I’ll be able to console myself with some extra money once the virus sweeps through again.
DeWolf 23:24 on 2020-06-29 Permalink
The virus hasn’t stopped circulating. We are still seeing 30 new cases a day in Montreal. That’s not many compared to before, but it still means there is potential for an outbreak at any time.
Kevin 00:12 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
And as the province makes masks mandatory on the bus, it stops making them mandatory for dentists.
The decision-makers have no sense.
MarcG 10:39 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
My friend who worked in the ER told me to wear a bike helmet because she’d seen the difference it makes up close and personal. Not everything is a conspiracy.
MarcG 10:48 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
I would also like to say that what I read in Chris’ comments is not that this law is unjust and trampling his freedom, but that if we really, truly cared about people’s well-being, we would outlaw a ton of other stuff as well and start cleaning up our mess.
Ephraim 13:50 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
Apparently, people don’t think too much about the second coming… Chicken-Pox is also Shingles. Polio has post-polio syndrome… you just don’t know what a dormant version of this looks like and how it will come back. That’s a good enough reason to wear a mask.
JaneyB 14:24 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
Indoor masks are a no-brainer for a while. In countries with dense sidewalk activity, outdoors too. This is not a hardship.
Was in Angrignon mall a couple of days ago. It was mostly empty. All the stores have the disinfectant protocol, number of customers, and shut changing rooms. I would say about 80% of women were wearing masks and about 30% of the men (almost entirely 20 year olds and seniors, sadly few between). Frustrating behaviour on the guy side here. Is it that much of a burden to think of others for a few months…
Ian 14:31 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
Consider how many people on this blog think advocating for wearing bike helmets is a conspiracy to prevent bicycling I’m not surprised there’s a strong “masks are a conspiracy” contingent here, too.
GC 20:23 on 2020-06-30 Permalink
I find your sample interesting, JaneyB. In my (very limited) anecdotal experience, it was definitely women who were more likely to be masked. The four times I’ve been on the metro, however, it seemed to be the opposite with the age groups. Those in the 30-50 range were wearing most of the masks and it was the younger/older set who seemed lacking.
Orr 11:06 on 2020-07-01 Permalink
>>>Consider how many people on this blog think advocating for wearing bike helmets is a conspiracy to prevent bicycling…
Let’s look at some science!
“Bicycle helmet laws reduce the amount of cycling and hence at least part of the reduction is attributable to reduced exposure to accidents.”
Source:: https://nacto.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2012_de-Jong_Health-Impacts-of-Mandatory-Bicycle-Helmet-Laws.pdf