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  • Kate 22:40 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

    La Presse’s Mario Girard wrote an op-ed on the weekend tersely headlined La lutte s’organise about wheeling and dealing going on well in advance of the November 2021 municipal election with the intention to destroy Projet Montréal.

    I have to say, a lot of people really hate Valérie Plante. She’s getting blamed for things that are not within her purview as mayor, of course, but there are many people for whom she can do nothing right. A lot of the most vituperative commenters are women, so sisterhood is not exactly coming to her aid.

    I’m curious to know what paragons of mayoralty these folks are comparing her to. Coderre’s showboating, Tremblay’s lack of grip, the forgettable era of Pierre Bourque, none of these people collected the constant shrill grievances that I see directed at Plante. So much so that I’ve wondered whether Ensemble hasn’t devoted some of its budget to some offshore service of the sort that have undermined other forms of democracy in our time.

     
    • walkerp 05:56 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      Hard to say how much of this anger is exaggerated by the internet effect. She does fall into two groups that tend to create disproportionate hate, working against the car lobby and being a woman in power. On top of that is the general attack on cities from conservative forces, which is particularly pronounced in Quebec. I would like to see a decent poll on her popularity from among the actual citizens of Montreal.

    • Ian 07:59 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      Well to be fair she can’t expect much solidarity from women given how she threw Sue Montgomery under the bus… and hey, as Luc Ferrandez constantly pointed out, PM isn’t anti-car, they are pro-urban planning… just a very distinct version that makes it more complicated to have a car.

      Regardless of how you look at it, this is the first mayoralty in like, forever, that hasn’t been clearly on the take and only interested in business. The first progressives in power. With that comes the burden of being the first progressives in power in that they need o quickly learn to compromise and recognize their limitations as well as their opportunities – which I think Plante has done well. I’m not convinced that a lot of city functionaries aren’t still on the take, but I don’t think Plante is one of them.

      @Kate on your list of our stellar past mayors you forgot Applebaum, who has the distinction of being the first anglo mayor of Montreal in a century or so and also the first to be prosecuted for abuse of power while actually still in office.

    • Bill Binns 08:45 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      I gave her the benefit of the doubt early on and 5 minutes later she announced every city council meeting would begin with a “land acknowledgement” and I was out. Five minutes after that pretty much every single person I know in the city despised her and her party for the Mount Royal access road disaster.

      She has also traveled the world as mayor (as her predecessors did) which I see as expensive and unnecessary. I really wish the media would do a better job of tracking the travels of politicians. I jumped off the Coderre train when he airlifted half of the city’s bureaucrats to Haiti to…….. What did they do exactly?

    • Maxim Baru 10:00 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      There’s a lot of Plante animosity I can’t speak to and know nothing about. But if it would be interesting context: from the corner of the organized activist scene, for lack of a better word, (housing, immigration, urban dev, organized labour, etc) there’s quite a lot of animosity now. Leading up to her election Plante went around to a lot of these groups (directly or through delegates) and made a lot of promises. There was nothing her and her people were not already aware of regarding what was and was was ‘not within her purview as mayor,’ including the things which might have been formally in her purview but were likely outside of it as a consequence of informal power relationships. Without going into detail in the context of this blog comment, the manner and speed in which she reneged on some of her most high valued commitments signalled to many that not only was she not capable of delivering the goods, but also that she had not intended to do so. While this sector of society may seem narrow, it would be misleading to dismiss them because while only a few personalities raise to mass prominence, the base of these communities is rather broad, and when it comes to elections, forms a critical pool of free labour and mobilization come election time for progressive candidates. Without them, it’s unlikely progressive candidates can win elections.

    • Marco 10:57 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      I like Plante. She was elected on promises to improve public transit, reduce rush hour traffic and make areas closer to downtown more family friendly. All of those boxes have check marks beside them. Of course, she’s a left-of-center politician which means the right wing hates her and the left wing will always be disappointed. Against a backdrop of years of corrupt and wasteful administrations, we haven’t seen headlines like “Mafia connections”, “water meter contracts”,”Formula-E”, or “granite ‘stumps’ on Mount Royal” in the news lately either. If her greatest sin is that she tried putting a stop light at the top of Camillien Houde then she’s in for a second term for sure.

    • Su 11:00 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      I have come to the conclusion that what most people want is a Mayor like Mayor Demers in Laval.
      A strong suited deceptive gentleman willing to ignore science in order to please his businessmen developer handlers. There is nothing we can do about it. Most people love cars and condo developments more than peaceful natural spaces…so that is what they vote for.

    • Su 11:19 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      “offshore service of the sort that have undermined other forms of democracy in our time.”
      That would be dreadful. But surely we can feel secure that our authorities would never allow such incursions. I mean it’s not like we are Moscow or Ukraine for heaven’s sake!

    • EmilyG 17:10 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      It seems to me a lot of West Islanders don’t like her. I think they see her as anti-car, and/or get mad whenever she does something they think is harmful to the suburbs, or something that they just don’t like.
      I think part of the West Island animosity is that there are places there which were formerly cities but then became part of Montreal (and weren’t successful at de-merging, so are still technically Montreal) and they don’t want to have to always play by the City of Montreal’s rules.
      Some of those people even go so far as to want to bring back Denny…. wow. (mostly the people griping about anti-car things.)

    • david292 20:44 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

      I’m a bit disappointed that Valerie Plante has given in to some of the kook anti-growth element in the party, when the party was literally founded and led through its first city-wide elections by a pro-growth urbanist. She’s moved to impose inclusionary housing mandates that sound good but that really mean zero growth. She’s let the neighborhoods reign on zoning, which sounds good until you realize that their anti-growth policies dump housing demand onto other areas and lead to massive gentrification.

      I wish too that she were more politically powerful in Quebec, and that she were more ambitious, but come on.

      Overall, it’s unquestionable that she’s the best mayor we’ve had in my lifetime.

    • JaneyB 10:35 on 2020-07-29 Permalink

      Big fan of Plante here. Not perfect but not at all corrupt. She’s the best mayor we’ve had in my lifetime as well. Due to the anger from the Right and the disappointment on the Left, I am make a note to donate to PM and work on Plante’s next campaign. I don’t know who the Left think they will be able to support if not Plante and if the Right thinks it will find a non-corrupt candidate to back, I’ll eat my hat.

  • Kate 22:23 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

    I’m beginning to see articles about long, difficult recoveries from Covid, including this one about an STM transit security guy who has not fully recovered, four months after testing positive.

     
    • Kate 14:14 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

      The SPVM relies on fewer surveillance cameras than police in many cities, and they don’t plan to install more.

       
      • Kate 14:10 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

        Longshoremen at the Port of Montreal have begun a four-day strike.

         
        • Kate 14:04 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

          SPVM agents seized what they describe as half a million dollars’ worth of illicit drugs this month in Lachine. The list shown seems a little lightweight. Nine grams of hashish and less than a kilo of cannabis, a few grams of this and a few grams of that, and one blotter of acid? Plus, I didn’t think Viagra, Cialis or Xanax were exactly illicit, although I suppose they might count as such if you don’t have a prescription.

           
          • Ian 17:15 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Well cop math has always been based on the highest possible estimate, usually something along the lines of calculating the drug seizure at street value assuming all quantities are broken down into the smallest possible unit, so if it’s 20 bucks for a quarter gram of heavily cut bar coke, multiplied across a kilo suddenly you’ve made a pretty impressive bust.

            That said JDM has noted drug prices have gone up in the pandemic… https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/06/27/la-covid-fait-exploser-le-prix-de-la-coke-a-montreal

        • Kate 13:58 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

          Despite grumbling on social media, Metro reports that a lot of folks like the new Bellechasse bike path; Le Devoir reports on the surge in cycling’s popularity even among folks who’d never used a bike before.

           
          • Ian 16:13 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            One inaccuracy worth noting – “Les axes est-ouest cyclables étant peu nombreux à Montréal, Mme Lareau considère que la rue de Bellechasse était «toute désignée» pour être aménagée ainsi.” This is patently untrue, the van Horne bike path is only one block from Bellechasse for a good portion of its route, and goes almost the entire length of the Plateau from St. Laurent to Iberville. While the Bellechassse route is indeed very nice it is hardly the only lengthy east-west route in the area – and the Van Horne path is completely protected from any other traffic besides joggers.

            That said, I ride that particular path regularly, it’s great, but honestly – and I say this as a bicyclist that is also a driver – the bike paths take up so much of the street that I don’t see why the city doesn’t just close down the street to car traffic altogether. Bellechasse, if I recall correctly used to to be two ways with parking on both sides and is down to one lane headed west, no parking. I don’t see the point. Making Bellechasse bikes-only would allow them to get rid of all the extra road hardware, too, to improve access for emergency vehicles.

            All that aside, free vignettes for people with with reduced mobility sounds like a great idea in ALL vignette neighbourhoods, TBH – as does resident-only parking on residential streets. If you want to park on a residential street with vignettes, you should have to buy a vignette. I’ve got NY, NJ, & CT plates all up & down my street even though the border is closed to all but dual citizens.

          • walkerp 16:50 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            When you say Van Horne, do you mean the path that goes along the railroad tracks? Because Van Horne stops at St-Laurent. Does everybody call that path the Van Horne?

          • Ian 16:54 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            I’ve always heard it described as the Van Horne bike path because that was the old Van Horne rail line. Does it have another name?

          • Alex 17:04 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            I have heard it referred to as the Chemin des Carrieres

          • Ian 17:09 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Ah interesting, that would make sense too given the route the street takes.

            I guess this is as good a place as any to ask – does anyone know of a good app for navigating Montreal’s bike paths? I know Google Maps has the option to show bike paths but I don’t think there’s any way to prioritize bike paths…

          • EmilyG 17:27 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            You mean the Réseau Vert?

          • Ian 17:29 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Clearly there is a lack in consensus 😀
            But yes

          • EmilyG 17:41 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Ah, okay. I guess I was just looking for clarification.
            It’s a nice path. I walk along it sometimes (watching out for cyclists and others.) It’s the fastest and safest way for me to get to the grocery store.

          • Benoit 21:01 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            @Ian ; yes, Google Maps does prioritize bike paths if you chose the cycling option when searching for an itinerary

          • Ian 21:22 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            hm I must be doing it wrong, I can’t seem to specify that. I’ll figure it out. That said, are there any apps that are specifically based on the Montreal bike path network?

          • Benoit 00:17 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

          • Dhomas 03:51 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            Years ago, I used a separate app for bike routing. I don’t know if it still exists since it was in the days before Android and iOS completely took over the smartphone market (I was using Windows Mobile and BlackBerry at the time). But Google Maps has greatly improved since then, and I no longer need a separate app. You can even set up your profile (on Android, not sure about iPhone) to make your commute default to routing by bike and all other routing by car (or vice versa). Google Maps will even now tell you the elevation of different routes so you can avoid one that has too much uphill, for example. The only problem is that it has not always been up to date with new paths.

          • Ian 08:03 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            I see what you mean – though I’d be more inclined to take Guy to the deMaisonneuve bike path then City Councillors to Sherbrooke as those are the least steep inclines …I’m no lycra warrior seeking out the hills haha 🙂

          • Ian 08:08 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            // addendum for clarification – I read that map as going form Atwater to Jean-Talon, that route does make good sense going downhill.

            @Dhomas I had noticed the elevation, that’s a nice touch. I know Google is great for remembering routes. As far as navigational apps go, Waze is very good at being up to date – but is only for cars, sadly. If I’m just charting my own routes I think I’ll probably stick with a more bike-specific app like Strava.

          • mare 10:25 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            In general Google Map for bikes it pretty good, and tries to keep elevation change at a minimum. But it doesn’t take in account roadwork closures, and its pretty frustrating to use our confusing and not wel connected, and terrible indicated bike path network. If you haven’t been somewhere before expect surprises.

            Case in point: I searched a few week ago for the best way to go from downtown to the South shore and then to the Champlain bridge. It sent me over the islands to the Victoria St-Lambert locks. Unfortunately those were closed so I had to go all the way to the Jacques Cartier bridge. After scaling the very steep Jacques Cartier bridge entrance and arriving in Longueuil it sent me through St Lambert (Not wrong, but when I searched again to find a connection to the bike path along the river it sent me all the way back to Boulevard Thimens. I carried my bike down the stairs and I didn’t go that far East, but found a pedestrian bridge over the 20 near the police station. Not ideal but better than nothing. (Longueuil really needs to connect some bike paths and put up signage.). Anyway, a bit later I got hopelessly lost again at the North Side of the Champlain where the perfectly indicated multi-use path abruptly stopped at a roundabout on Nun’s Island without any further signage. Google Maps didn’t know where to go either. It was dark by then but thankfully there was another electric scooter that wizzed by and that I followed, and after having to take some big detours and loop backs, I ended up at the other side of the old part of the Champlain bridge where the bike path continued. (Why didn’t they put the multi-use path also on the West side? Detours are very frustrating for cyclists, especially bike commuters.)

            Then into Griffintown along the canal, and then into old Montreal where the bike path was blocked by condo- and road construction (without any indication) at least twice, and I had to find my way to find the bike path again.

            I alerted Google Maps about the closed St-Lambert connection at the time, and I included a few links to newspaper articles about the closure. I didn’t have time and energy (in more than one way; all that looking for directions uses a lot of phone battery charge) to let them know about all the other pitfalls. Just checked, it *still* get the route over the islands, almost a month later, Unless it’s openend again (anyone here knows?) that’s quite disheartening.

          • mare 10:36 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            BTW, the Bellechasse bike path is great, but the also new super-wide bike path on both sides of rue Christophe-Colomb is amazing. It goes all the way from the underpass near Parc Laurier to the 40, without any detours. Not very well known is that if you go South the bike path continues on Christophe-Colomb below Laurier park in the South direction, all the way to Cherrier. Combined with St-André for going North, it’s a viable alternative to the overcrowded and narrow Brebeuf bike path.

          • nau 16:36 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            The Victoria bridge locks had people cycling over them this weekend. Reading online looks like they’ve given over one of the car lanes to bikes until the rebuild is done. Also, if you do Pont Champlain again, the shortest route towards the island of Montreal from that roundabout on Nun’s Island is to go left once you’ve crossed Rene Levesque Blvd. (the road at the end of the Pont Champlain path). Go left along the sidewalk and then for a short while on the street (Rue Jacques-Le-Ber) until you get to Chemin de la Pointe Nord (about 150 m from the roundabout). There is a bike path on the northwest corner of that intersection that will take you under the 10 to Nun’s Island Bridge. I imagine the signage will get better once all the condo construction in the area is done.

          • mare 22:57 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            Thanks nau! Glad the locks passage is open again.

        • Kate 11:26 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

          Numbers show that while young Quebecers from the regions may be attracted by the urban agglomeration, they’re not choosing to live on the island as much as they once did. A couple of suggestions are made here, and it’s likely that changes made for the pandemic – notably a lot of online learning – will only increase the tendency for students not to feel any need to live near an urban campus. But that had already begun, with universities and even CEGEPs spinning off satellite campuses.

          But the surge in rental costs and the housing crisis, as suggested, must be huge. For young people accustomed to the sparse landscape of rural and small-town Quebec, Montreal’s more far‑flung suburbs might feel more like home, and offer more affordable housing, than the dense streets of Rosemont or Villeray. (So why move closer to the city at all, I would tend to ask.)

          The decline in the number of immigrants, as promised by the CAQ, has also reduced the number of people coming to live on the island. Lionel Perez, of course, blames Valérie Plante.

           
          • Em 12:48 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            I can’t help feel that this could be a good thing in the long run. A handful of big cities (led by Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal) can’t continue to sustain the bulk of the country’s population growth forever, and it puts big strain on infrastructure, housing prices, traffic etc.

            The optimistic scenario is that some smaller cities start becoming more vibrant hubs with more jobs and cultural offering, thanks to an infusion of new people living and maybe even starting businesses there.

            The pessimistic scenario is that everyone will want to move to old-school suburbs and worsen urban sprawl.

          • Ephraim 13:56 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            In some ways, I agree with Em, but I actually think that we (Canada) needs to sit down and plan a few cities, from the ground up, including public transit, before the city is laid out. Planned growth is better than unplanned. But in the long run, people will still gravitate to large cities because they promise higher growth and wealth.

          • Kate 14:32 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            I’d have to read up on the existence and success of planned cities, but do you have any confidence they could be real cities rather than simply rows of residential housing with a mall or two somewhere nearby? We can’t build real neighbourhoods any more, so I have my doubts we can create a real city from nothing.

            I suppose with the consequences of the pandemic, what you need to do is design condo buildings where each condo unit has not only a kitchen, bathroom and bedroom, but also a dedicated office room with broadband for online work and Zoom meetings. I wonder if that’s already on the drawing board somewhere.

          • DeWolf 15:02 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            “Lionel Perez, of course, blames Valérie Plante.”

            I did a double take when I saw that passage in the article. He blames her 20-20-20 policy for pushing people off the island, but the policy doesn’t take effect until next year. So who knows.

            Getting lost in the story is that Montreal is not actually losing population – in fact the island’s population is higher than it has ever been at 2.052 million.

          • Em 16:33 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            @Ephraim I like that idea, but right now I’d settle for any kind of urban planning at the regional level to start, vs the unsustainable free-for-all that exists in many of the cities just outside Montreal (and sometimes within it too).

          • Ephraim 16:44 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Kate, think of cities like Brasilia, Canberra, Islamabad, and Washington DC. If you take land and don’t start until after you own the land, you can plan everything, before you parcel it out. You can build tall with green space. Yes, over time it will change, but you can set up the streets, the commercial, industrial and hospitals, etc. You leave extra space for future. You put all the cables underground, etc.

          • Ian 17:01 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Brasilia is hardly a shining example of urban planning, it’s considered a failure of urban planning despite having been planed form the ground up by futurist visionaries… who were totally out of touch with the needs of the population.
            https://www.curbed.com/2019/6/7/18657121/brasilia-brazil-urban-planning-architecture-design

            For that matter TMR was a planned city and it’s not exactly a shining example of anything but NIMBYism.

          • Em 17:16 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Irvine, California is a planned city that seems to get named to lots of “best cities” lists, athough I admit I didn’t find it any nicer than many other organically-developed cities in California. It’s designed around the university and does have a balance of industry, shopping and green space.

          • EmilyG 17:32 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Also, this isn’t quite the article’s topic, but I think it’s related – many people around my age (late 20’s to mid-30’s) who grew up in the West Island are choosing to live off-island in places west of Montreal. Especially those who have children.
            Probably because it’s still physically close enough, and similar enough, to the West Island, but I heard housing prices for places just-off-the-West-Island are lower. Less expensive to get a little box made of ticky-tacky there.

          • Ian 08:19 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            There is a trailer park in Vaudreuil and there are some parts of Rigaud mountain where it’s straight up farmland with bad cell reception. One of the things that I very much like about Montreal is that you really don’t need to drive that far out of town to basically be in the country – and the drive from, say, Ste Adèle to Sainte Anne is about the same as from Mile End to Ste Anne. Considering that one floor of a triplex in Mile End is about 450k you can get a pretty nice place for a lot less basically in the country, not even the burbs, and still be well within a decent commute. When I worked downtown I worked with a couple of guys that came in from Hawkesbury – which sounds crazy until you realize that in Toronto, by contrast, a 2 hour commute by train each way is totally normal, and southern Ontario is solid city after city with no country at all from Toronto’s lakeshore all the way to Barrie. When I lived in Toronto, I knew people driving in from Kitchener.

            I mean let’s be real here, i it takes a minimum hour and a half to get from Mile End to Ste Anne, if you work in Ste Anne, unless you really like living in the city there’s not a lot of incentive not to live west of Dorval and if you do, you will have a car, and then you may as well live off-island… and this is the thing… not everyone likes living in cities. I grew up in the country and I am never doing that again, but for a lot of city folk there is a romantic draw to the notion, much like how so many kids pick up and run off to BC for a few years before they skulk back miserably.

          • Patrick 13:52 on 2020-07-28 Permalink

            @Em, Irvine is OK in some respects but very car-centric. As with the planned cities Kate mentioned, shopping is restricted to a very few areas. I have friends who live in the fairly dense faculty housing neighborhood there, and they cannot walk or bike (by any reasonable measure) to a market, or even a convenience store. On the other hand, would a dep survive in the neighborhood, given the probable rent and the low foot traffic? I doubt there is a solution to this dilemma unless governments intervene in the property market to keep rents low for essential services.

          • Kate 01:44 on 2020-07-29 Permalink

            Just spotted this item about a Hong Kong property tycoon who wants to build an entirely new city for HK expats to live in, in Ireland.

        • Kate 09:30 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

          Someone shot a gun in DDO Sunday but nobody was hit.

          How do people even know? Occasionally I hear what I think is small fireworks being let off, nearby, but I’m not confident I’d be able to tell gunfire from a pétard.

           
          • Dominic 10:10 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            To be fair, they did find a bullet casing

          • Kate 10:23 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Afterwards, yes, when the police had been called. But I’m not sure if I heard the bang-bang of a gun somewhere nearby that I could tell it wasn’t a firework.

          • MarcG 10:41 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Or a car backfiring. I always tell myself that a gunshot would be louder than whatever I just heard.

          • Kevin 10:57 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Compared to a firecracker, gunfire sounds a little flat. It doesn’t carry on as long.

            And if you call 911 to report gunfire, they’ll ask how you know the difference.

          • Blork 12:01 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            @Kevin; depends on the gun. Shotgun, rifle, and pistol all sound different.

          • Kevin 16:14 on 2020-07-27 Permalink

            Blork
            True dat. I’ve only heard pistols being fired in a city.

        • Kate 09:17 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

          A driver who attempted to drive in the wrong direction on the Met on Sunday evening will face charges.

           
          • Kate 09:06 on 2020-07-27 Permalink | Reply  

            A two-week grace period is over, and masks are now mandatory on public transit.

             
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