Yeah sure protest The Man by buying a guy Fawkes mask and giving money to Time Warner through each purchase because they own the rights to the image. Hahaha
Kevin, I was reading yesterday how wearing a mask can protect the wearer to some extent. Apparently the sheer amount of virus particles inhaled affects us. If we get a heavy blast of virus from a carrier we can get seriously ill, but a mask can at least partly protect us from that. I’ll try to find the source for this.
Even I can’t protect myself in the short term wearing a mask, more community transmission just increases the chances that I will catch it in the long run. Plus, the chance of protecting others should be enough motivation.
To be fair, not all these people are claiming that masks are ineffective, should never be used, etc. Some are merely saying that they should not be forced by law to wear them.
>Plus, the chance of protecting others should be enough motivation.
It’s not in a million other instances. Driving a car 1) kills people by collisions 2) kills people by air pollution 3) kills people by climate change. So, the chance of protecting others should be enough motivation to not drive a car, right? No, humans don’t work that way. In fact, the arguments are similar: “it’s my right”, “freedom”, “liberty”, “independence”, etc.
(Global covid deaths are now at 720k, about halfway to global annual motor vehicle collision deaths. And we’re past halfway through the year, so it’s not even certain the former will pass the latter, though I think it will.)
None of this is about the effectiveness of masks. It’s totally about not wanting to wear masks, the reasoning is there to justify the not wanting to wear masks.
I don’t get it. The masks seem plainly liberatory to me. With them, I can leave the house and do and see normal-ish things. In April, though we were still mostly wearing scarves, people were cowering in their apartments, often alone and going for solitary walks just to stay sane. At that time, the French were being watched by cops and needed permits to leave their house for very short periods and I think China had actually welded shut doors of dwellings. Oh, those masks…such a burden. My goodness.
I feel so much more comfortable going out now that (nearly) everyone is wearing masks indoors. And lots of people wear them outside on crowded streets, too. I was walking down Ste-Catherine on Thursday and around half the people outdoors were wearing masks.
The problem is that people who refuse to wear masks aren’t doing so because it’s inconvenient or uncomfortable, they’re doing so because they believe in wacko conspiracy theories about Covid. It’s part of a much larger problem and I’m not sure what can be done about it.
GC 19:09 on 2020-08-08 Permalink
In the video, funny to see people wearing Guy Fawkes masks…
Dhomas 20:03 on 2020-08-08 Permalink
“We want our liberty. We want the right to say yes to a vaccine. We want the right to decide. It’s our life, it’s our bodies, it’s up to us.”
All I can think of is this:
Dhomas 20:05 on 2020-08-08 Permalink
I don’t know why I try to embed images. Here’s the link:
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/68567341/dont-you-hate-pants.jpg
Uatu 21:22 on 2020-08-08 Permalink
Yeah sure protest The Man by buying a guy Fawkes mask and giving money to Time Warner through each purchase because they own the rights to the image. Hahaha
Ephraim 22:12 on 2020-08-08 Permalink
Don’t know if they are suicidal, but they certainly are troglodytes.
Kevin 00:33 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
They aren’t suicidal, they are homicidal.
Masks don’t protect the wearer: they protect people around the wearer.
Kate 08:56 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
Kevin, I was reading yesterday how wearing a mask can protect the wearer to some extent. Apparently the sheer amount of virus particles inhaled affects us. If we get a heavy blast of virus from a carrier we can get seriously ill, but a mask can at least partly protect us from that. I’ll try to find the source for this.
Oh here we go. It’s a report on a paper, linked from a New Yorker item in which the writer was trying to figure out how she’d caught it. Study: Wearing a Mask Protects You From Severe COVID-19 Symptoms.
Kevin 09:10 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
Kate
“To some extent” carries a lot of weight there 😉
Back when this started, it was because masked health care workers in China and Italy were getting sick that Public Health did not recommend masks.
Which led to the abuse and manipulation of the “everything is always planned” crowd.
GC 09:28 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
Even I can’t protect myself in the short term wearing a mask, more community transmission just increases the chances that I will catch it in the long run. Plus, the chance of protecting others should be enough motivation.
Chris 10:40 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
To be fair, not all these people are claiming that masks are ineffective, should never be used, etc. Some are merely saying that they should not be forced by law to wear them.
>Plus, the chance of protecting others should be enough motivation.
It’s not in a million other instances. Driving a car 1) kills people by collisions 2) kills people by air pollution 3) kills people by climate change. So, the chance of protecting others should be enough motivation to not drive a car, right? No, humans don’t work that way. In fact, the arguments are similar: “it’s my right”, “freedom”, “liberty”, “independence”, etc.
(Global covid deaths are now at 720k, about halfway to global annual motor vehicle collision deaths. And we’re past halfway through the year, so it’s not even certain the former will pass the latter, though I think it will.)
EmilyG 11:39 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
And the headline has been updated to now read “thousands” and not just “hundreds” I guess.
Ugh.
Michael Black 11:50 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
None of this is about the effectiveness of masks. It’s totally about not wanting to wear masks, the reasoning is there to justify the not wanting to wear masks.
EmilyG 12:58 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
Because apparently their freedom is being taken away. *eyeroll*
If you want your freedom, stay at home, and wear a mask when you go out, and eventually everyone will have more freedom.
JaneyB 13:11 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
I don’t get it. The masks seem plainly liberatory to me. With them, I can leave the house and do and see normal-ish things. In April, though we were still mostly wearing scarves, people were cowering in their apartments, often alone and going for solitary walks just to stay sane. At that time, the French were being watched by cops and needed permits to leave their house for very short periods and I think China had actually welded shut doors of dwellings. Oh, those masks…such a burden. My goodness.
DeWolf 17:36 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
I feel so much more comfortable going out now that (nearly) everyone is wearing masks indoors. And lots of people wear them outside on crowded streets, too. I was walking down Ste-Catherine on Thursday and around half the people outdoors were wearing masks.
The problem is that people who refuse to wear masks aren’t doing so because it’s inconvenient or uncomfortable, they’re doing so because they believe in wacko conspiracy theories about Covid. It’s part of a much larger problem and I’m not sure what can be done about it.
GC 17:36 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
I don’t own a car, Chris. You’re barking up the wrong tree.
dwgs 17:55 on 2020-08-09 Permalink
It’s the only tree Chris knows.