Habs to play “full” season
The NHL has announced that matches will start on January 13 and the Canadiens start on that day with a match against the Leafs.
This will go on until there’s an inevitable Covid outbreak in the ranks, and then it’s anyone’s guess.
Update: Canadian teams will only be playing Canadian teams!
Douglas 12:01 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Covid outbreaks aren’t a big deal at all. Games will just be re-scheduled like all the other sports leagues are doing.
Kate 12:13 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Covid outbreaks aren’t a big deal at all.
Of course they aren’t. 2,349 new cases in Quebec over the last 24 hours, and 46 more deaths. No big.
Uatu 13:23 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Nurses at the Lakeshore are told to choose to go full time, increase to 12hr shifts or give up vacation time. If they don’t choose, the choice will be made for them. The Vic ICU is so full they’re discussing who will get treatment and who won’t. Adult patients are being transferred to the children’s hospital for lack of space.
So yeah all you whiny hospital staff quit griping. It’s no biggie.
Oh and “food on the table”
Dhomas 14:14 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
At this point, I’m pretty sure Douglas is a troll.
Douglas 20:43 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Healthy people under 50 barely die from this disease. So healthy hockey players getting infected = no big deal.
So why is anyone concerned about an outbreak between players?
And Kate, 280 000 Canadians die every year on average, 800 per day. So what do your numbers tell me exactly?
Douglas 20:50 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Uatu,
Entire entertainment industry is broke, thousands of small businesses went bankrupt, restaurant industry can’t even “put food on the table” and you want me to feel sorry for people still earning money this year?
Kate 20:56 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Excess mortality, Douglas.
I can’t get my head around the idea that we should all behave “normally” and if a lot of people die, or get chronic conditions that dog them for a long time, who gives a shit, it’s no big deal. But that seems to be what you say every time you comment here.
Jebediah Pallendrome 20:57 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
^ exactly. Glad someone had the immense courage to say this. People die every day ergo there is absolutely nothing wrong with having 4-5 times as many people die every day.
I’m with Douglas. No more seatbelts or airbags, no safety standards or regulations for commercial aviation either. The FDA is a waste, let the free market decide what’s poison and what isn’t. And forget modern medicine. Our society was purer like during the time of the ancient Greeks, when if you’re slave-catomite’s appendix burst or leg broke, you just threw him off a cliff into the sea and then made someone else your new slave-catomite.
I’m in complete agreement with Douglas, there’s no way I’m allowing myself to be mildly inconvenienced for the betterment of all.
It’s so inconsiderate to people like me and Douglas, who have never in any way needed or depended on the society we live in nor it’s vast social safety net. We’ve managed to go our whole lives completely unloved and therefore on our own and without any friends, and therefore because we’re miserable we feel it’s our job to make sure everyone else is, because some Austrian hypocrite poorly wrote a book about an architect 75 years ago that unlettered fools think is secretly brilliant.
Obviously unfettered capitalism and grovelling to the almighty dollar isn’t an existential slavery that’s at the root cause of all our problems, sharing and thinking of others is.
Le mic. She is dropped.
Max 22:18 on 2020-12-24 Permalink
Le sarcasme. She is strong these days.
Chris 00:48 on 2020-12-25 Permalink
>Excess mortality, Douglas.
Doesn’t that link kinda make Douglas’ point though? It says only 12% of the excess deaths were people under 65 years of age. No doubt even less for fit 20 somethings. And the excess deaths, at their peak, were “only” about 2x the regular death count. The way the media goes on about covid, I bet if you took a poll, Joe Average would think excess deaths are at 100x.
>I can’t get my head around the idea that we should all behave “normally” and if a lot of people die, or get chronic conditions that dog them for a long time, who gives a shit, it’s no big deal.
Not sure why you can’t get your head around it, because alas it’s forever been humanity’s modus operandi. We slash and burn rainforest, we burn fossil fuel, we turn a blind eye to forced labour, we generate and dump all kinds of pollutants, all the while knowing it will sicken and kill millions and millions. We’d rather have our low cost trinkets.
Just as you or I may calculate that a little forced labour, toxic chemicals, polluted waters, strip mining, and deforestation is worth it for that new iPhone, so others calculate that a few people catching covid is worth it for that hockey game or trip to Cuba.
Mark 09:26 on 2020-12-25 Permalink
Merry Christmas folks. Chris, you say “only” 2x the regular death count. This, despite worldwide lockdowns, closing travel, masks, social distancing, and so on. Had we not done this, what do you think the excess death count would have been? This nasty virus spreads like nothing we’ve seen in decades.
Public health has never said: We need to reduce the risk to 0. They are aiming to reduce the risk enough to avoid the collapse of our health care system. The ICUs are full now.
Hockey players are not going to die, but they can transmit the disease. As a hockey fan, I’m happy to see it start up again. But this is all about making $ for the teams, and I don’t think it’s the right call.
Chris 19:15 on 2020-12-25 Permalink
Mark, I put “only” in quotes exactly because I meant it’s not just a little bit.
>Had we not done this, what do you think the excess death count would have been?
More. Duh.
>But this is all about making $ for the teams
Just about everything in our society is about making money for someone. But I can see an argument for allowing these games: if people can’t shop, can’t go out because it’s too cold, can’t go to work, can’t do just about fuck all, and they’re told to stay inside at home, well they need something to watch. Some live sports could help keep people home, and thus be a net reducer of virus transmission.
Mark 20:24 on 2020-12-25 Permalink
Hi Chris, fair point about people staying home more to watch hockey. And I agree that society is foolishly trying to reduce risk to zero, when that isn’t possible ( pollution, injuries etc. ). A good example is that proves your point is how jungle gyms transformed over the last 30 years try to reduce injuries to kids, but probably failing in that respect.
But I don’t see the response to covid in the same vein as this over protectiveness. I see doctors pleading for people to stop contacts to avoid a collapse of the health care system. Maybe I’m wrong in respect.