Does anyone find something odd about this account of the death of a 15‑year‑old boy from an opioid called isotonitazene? “I told him, ‘don’t touch the little blue pills,'” his father [said].” And then “The teenager apparently thought he was taking oxycontin” – as if that would’ve been fine?!
And we’re trying to keep vapes out of their hands?
jeather 10:30 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
Yeah that’s . . . I get being ok with your teen smoking pot, but oxy? Not that you can just tell a teenager who is that dedicated to drugs not to and they’d listen, I hope this is just leaving out a lot of context here.
dwgs 10:42 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
A lot of kids are doing a lot of different drugs. Xanax and Percocet are widely used by teens. Thankfully my kids seem to have listened when we told them we knew they would likely try alcohol and pot but to stay away from pills and powders at all costs.
Kate 10:55 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
Xanax and Percocet? Those don’t sound like much fun. You have to ask yourself what’s wrong with our society when kids choose to be on painkillers and anti‑anxiety meds.
Blork 13:07 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
I don’t find that accounting odd. The dad hears about a very dangerous drug on the street and he warns his teenage son about it because he understands the nature of teenagers (i.e., they will do shit whether you warn them or not). That doesn’t mean it’s OK to take the other drugs, but he knows that kids are going to take shit no matter what their parents say, so he was focusing his warning on the one particularly deadly thing.
And how do you interpret “The teenager apparently thought he was taking oxycontin” as “as if that would’ve been fine?!”? Nothing there says the dad thought it would be fine. Dad warned about the deadly blue pills. Kid though the pills he was taking was something other than the specific deadly thing his dad warned about.
Bearing in mind that the more things you warn about, the more diffused each warning becomes, so if there is one particularly sinister danger out there, it’s more effective to focus on that one warning.
I’m not berating, I just don’t understand how you arrived at that conclusion.
Ian 14:17 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
@Kate crazy kids, when I was their age we took normal drugs like acid, or coke that was mostly speed, or valium, seconol, or intramuscular demerol. NORMAL illicit street drugs. /s
@Blork agreed, I just told my kids not to take any street drugs as tehre’s probably fentanyl in it.
TBH I do know a guy who got dosed with fent buying DMT from someone he had bought from before … if people are cutting powerfull halucinogens with fentanyl, that shit is in anything.
walkerp 15:16 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
I think the article was awkwardly written. The dad wasn’t saying “it’s okay to take oxycontin just not fentanyl”. The dad said “don’t take any blue pills” and then afterward when the kid, tragically, did take some blue pills, the article stated that. Nowhere was it saying that was fine.
Basically, what Blork said. It’s really sad.
Kate 19:50 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
Well OK, maybe this is me reading Sherlock Holmes again… but if the boy was unconscious, how do they know he thought he was taking oxycontin?
Blork 23:44 on 2024-01-06 Permalink
He might have said so before he fully lost consciousness, or perhaps he was in and out before he fully lost consciousness. Alternatively, he might have been with another person who put that information forward. Or perhaps he shared that info with friends via text or social media before the drug kicked in (“hey guys, just took some oxy!)
JohnS 07:23 on 2024-01-07 Permalink
Or they found other pills in his possession that looked like oxy. The article mentions that some of the tainted pills are made to resemble the pharmaceutical product.
Kate 12:20 on 2024-01-07 Permalink
I wonder what’s the logic here. Is isotonitazene so cheap, or so easy to synthesize, that it’s worth killing off some of your customers so’s to sell more fake oxycontin?
Ian 10:47 on 2024-01-08 Permalink
Nobody’s trying to kill their clients – if one person cuts the supply, that’s not going to kill anyone. If another one further down the chain does the same though, that’s where it gets dangerous.
Synthetic opioids are used to cut supply for the same reason speed is – it’s a lot cheaper than the real thing. Of course if you end up with too much real speed it just sucks – too much fent or whatever and bang, your ticket is punched.
Kate 11:20 on 2024-01-08 Permalink
No, nobody’s trying to, but if these opioids are so strong – carfentanyl gets mentioned, and now isotonitazene – surely they’re dangerous to handle, especially if by people with no proper training? The people preparing them and selling them must have to know that, and have a sense how dangerous they are. But they don’t care whether it means a few users have to die.