CityNews talked to a couple of restaurant owners on St‑Denis who say they resent the business that Mont‑Royal Avenue gets because it’s pedestrianized all summer. Someone even gets in a dig at the REV for displacing parking.
But it’s a question of urban geography. You can close Mont‑Royal all summer because it’s relatively narrow for a commercial street. You can’t close St‑Denis for long because it’s more of an artery. No, it’s not fair, but it is what it is.
DeWolf 11:49 on 2025-08-31 Permalink
Weird story. The reporter interviews two restaurant owners and calls it a day.
To paraphrase a comment Nicholas made earlier, restaurant owners love to blame everyone but themselves for their failures. If you open a restaurant on a busy street that is already a major destination, and nobody wants to eat there, you’re doing something wrong.
CE 12:22 on 2025-08-31 Permalink
I remember a bar downtown closed and the media ran a story on its last day. The owner blamed the smoking ban. The bar closed about 8 years after the ban came into effect.
Nicholas 12:47 on 2025-08-31 Permalink
There was a study done with sales data from terminals (Moneris, etc.) after the REV was built that showed that businesses on St Denis in the Plateau did better than businesses on St Laurent, compared to pre-REV. (Obviously they accounted for covid, etc.) There’s also the longstanding research that shows that people biking spend a little less per visit than people driving, but make more visits, largely because it’s easier to stop, and they have more disposable income not locked up in car payments, so spend more overall. Business owners often vastly overestimate the percent of customers who arrive by car, especially on a street with so much bike, pedestrian and transit traffic, and a big reason for that is they, the petite bourgeoisie, mostly drive. And a lot of them complain about parking because they park there all day, but that is not sympathetic, so they say customers need to park. (Plus parking is mostly maintained on St Denis; a few spots were lost for the mid-block crosswalks, and of course there are bus stops and turn lanes at intersections and terrasses, but the parking was just moved a few feet over.)
And the parking issue is especially funny because they also want pedestrianization? Do they realize that will remove way more parking? No one will drive past their business again? If that’s what businesses want, let’s do it!
Oh, they want help? Maybe some free money? Oh, festivals. Festivals are great, just get the SDC to support it and I’m sure it’ll happen. St Laurent is pedestrianized this weekend, and also over a week during Mural Fest, while St Denis just has one, the comic book festival, for one weekend. St Denis has as many lanes of traffic and parking as Mont-Royal and St Laurent, so it can be done. The city does things for Mont-Royal, but the SDC is hugely involved, you see their three summits branding everywhere, they suggest activities and often run them. So get together with your other businesses, decide on something, and I’m sure the government will support it. But the government is very reactive, and they follow what the businesses want, which is why Plaza St Hubert is no longer pedestrianized. One of the two restaurants interviewed isn’t even a member of the SDC! You have to do the work. But it is a lot easier to whine.
Meezly 10:23 on 2025-09-01 Permalink
I wonder if there were merchants along Mont-Royal Ave who were resistant pre-pedestrianization. Bet they’ve changed their tune since, or now claiming they’ve always supported the idea.
DeWolf 11:48 on 2025-09-01 Permalink
In the first couple of editions, I remember media coverage in which some merchants grumbled that it didn’t really benefit them. I think one was a watch repair shop.
Mont-Royal being pedestrianized in the summertime has been so deeply engrained in people’s expectations that it’s crazy to think it only goes back to 2020.
Nicholas 13:35 on 2025-09-01 Permalink
There was a dumpling place at the far east end, an area that has few workplaces and is mostly residential and much farther from the metro so gets fewer tourists, that complained and yet they never opened past 5 pm. I pointed out at the time that that seems like a terrible business idea. Seems it was.
Mozai 15:34 on 2025-09-01 Permalink
“Business owners often vastly overestimate the percent of customers who arrive by car….” because the business owners arrive by car; the parking is for them first.
DeWolf 23:32 on 2025-09-01 Permalink
@Nicholas — That dumpling place is now a Thai restaurant that is very successful.