Complaints pile up about airplane noise
An app called Aeroplainte has made it easy to complain about airplane noise in Montreal so, not surprisingly, complaints are piling up.
And yet, you’ll notice nobody is suggesting that we should have kept Mirabel open and gradually phased out the airport formerly known as Dorval. When you’re travelling or bringing people to or from the airport, you’re happy enough that you can get there in under an hour.
I live under a flight path. I hardly notice it all winter when the windows are shut tight, so that for me, the sound of planes is also the sound of summer. Occasionally – late afternoon, mostly – the influx of planes is a bit noticeable, but no more than a bit.
I think people need to chill, or – if they’re living where it’s intolerable – move. Planes aren’t going anywhere. I mean, they are going somewhere, but – well, you know what I mean.
DavidH 10:26 on 2019-08-31 Permalink
Flight paths were modified this year for work being done at the airport. I think that has more to do with it. People need to speak up where it wasn’t a good solution. You don’t want the temporary fix to be considered a good idea for new approaches.
People who own their houses can actually move as swiftly as you seem to imply. You don’t uproot a family and sell your house for a temporary flight plan supposed to last a few months.
nYULimby 19:24 on 2019-08-31 Permalink
Does anyone know why they can’t have the flight path directly above the Met where it’s noisy anyway?
Kate 20:18 on 2019-08-31 Permalink
Planes mostly used to come in more or less along a line with the Met, but in the last while it seems they’ve been crossing from (Montreal directions here) southeast to northwest. I see them coming roughly from the direction of Rosemont, then crossing overhead in Villeray into Ahuntsic.
Bert 21:44 on 2019-08-31 Permalink
The reason that they fly over Rosemont and Ahuntsic is due to how instrument landings are typically handled. Primarily, there is a radio signal that goes out from the runway center line and planes are directed in a way that they will intercept and capture the the line. They then follow the line in at a slope that is also a property o the radio signal. So, draw a line through the main runways and you will see where the planes will fly.
This is the most straightforward and safest way to do it. There are airports where maneuvers are required close in to the airport, but this increases risk of accident and missed approaches. It also requires special pilot training and some times certification.
Susana Machado 21:44 on 2019-08-31 Permalink
I live in VSL, straight under the landing path. I hear the planes they don’t bother me one fraction of what the ***** drivers of cars and motorbikes that think Marcel-Laurin is a race track!! At least there are not planes between 3 and 4 am, when they come out in hordes!
Bert 22:00 on 2019-08-31 Permalink
Also, this was discussed a while ago on this blog, but the sound levels from a plane are greatly different during takeoff and landing, as is the approach and departure flight profiles. During a landing the planes are more or less at idle or low throttle. They also fly at a lower altitude with a modest glide slope, on the order of 300-500 feet per minute. So a longer noise area but lower volume.
On departure, engines are at more or less full throttle but when they get airborne the climb rate i on the order of 2000-2500 feet per minute. Once airborne, at low altitude engines will often be throttled back for noise abatement until a minimum altitude is reached. So a higher volume but a smaller noise area,
qatzelok 07:59 on 2019-09-01 Permalink
“The noise is so loud sometimes that you can’t even hear the lawn-mowers.”
Kate 19:41 on 2019-09-01 Permalink
Bert, thanks for the information about the radio beacons.
Anna 12:50 on 2021-01-11 Permalink
Anyone here who has problems with noise from Mirabel, what postal code is on the flight path as of 2021?
Anyone here who has problems with noise from Dorval, what postal code is on the flight path of 2021?