It looks like an interesting plan (the whole thing I mean, not just the tram). Those purpose-built “city within a city” projects that were built in various places over the 20th century have not always been successful, sometimes turning into grim ghettos or whatever. But some have worked (I can’t think of any examples offhand).
It’s good that they are also planning community centers, recreation, schools, etc., which makes it much more of a “community” than for example Griffintown, which was just a real estate bonanza.
I’d like to know more about the tram. On CBC Radio it sounded like it was just to deliver people to the Namur Metro, which seems limiting. These articles imply it might run quite a ways on Jean-Talon.
On the one hand, a small tram with limited scope (just around the ‘hood and to the Metro) would be less expensive and more likely to run frequently, which is critical. But also more likely to fall into disrepair and be abandoned in a few decades. A larger system integrated into the city’s transit system (imagine a tram line from Cavendish all the way to the Jean-Talon market!) would be wonderful, but expensive and would probably only pass every 20 minutes, which makes it practically useless for the people in this new community who really just need a fast and frequent ride out of their enclave and to the Metro.
I wonder if I will live long enough to see this thing fully built and up and running.
Train on CP tracks between Namur and Lucien l’Allier running every 10-15 minutes, with intermediate stops at hippodrome, Cavendish, Westminster, Montreal West, Cavendish, Melrose, Vendome.
jeather 11:54 on 2024-04-19 Permalink
They said it’s to the east of Namur, though it’s to the west.
MarcG 11:58 on 2024-04-19 Permalink
And by ‘west’ we mean south.
Blork 12:10 on 2024-04-19 Permalink
It looks like an interesting plan (the whole thing I mean, not just the tram). Those purpose-built “city within a city” projects that were built in various places over the 20th century have not always been successful, sometimes turning into grim ghettos or whatever. But some have worked (I can’t think of any examples offhand).
It’s good that they are also planning community centers, recreation, schools, etc., which makes it much more of a “community” than for example Griffintown, which was just a real estate bonanza.
I’d like to know more about the tram. On CBC Radio it sounded like it was just to deliver people to the Namur Metro, which seems limiting. These articles imply it might run quite a ways on Jean-Talon.
On the one hand, a small tram with limited scope (just around the ‘hood and to the Metro) would be less expensive and more likely to run frequently, which is critical. But also more likely to fall into disrepair and be abandoned in a few decades. A larger system integrated into the city’s transit system (imagine a tram line from Cavendish all the way to the Jean-Talon market!) would be wonderful, but expensive and would probably only pass every 20 minutes, which makes it practically useless for the people in this new community who really just need a fast and frequent ride out of their enclave and to the Metro.
I wonder if I will live long enough to see this thing fully built and up and running.
MarcG 12:26 on 2024-04-19 Permalink
Free idea: High-speed covered moving walkway running straight down the middle to the metro
Blork 17:38 on 2024-04-19 Permalink
@MarcG I would literally move to that neighbourhood if they had that!
Anton 18:00 on 2024-04-19 Permalink
Train on CP tracks between Namur and Lucien l’Allier running every 10-15 minutes, with intermediate stops at hippodrome, Cavendish, Westminster, Montreal West, Cavendish, Melrose, Vendome.
James 08:28 on 2024-04-20 Permalink
The “Plan directeur” is available on-line:
https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/7439a7964cdb2924a6f91bef506d5b6284695401/original/1713552211/b7db85d210bfab2163038300c0bdd024_Projet_PDAD_QNH.pdf
Kate 09:19 on 2024-04-20 Permalink
Thanks, James
qatzelok 08:46 on 2024-04-21 Permalink
I’ve reported the cover page of that Plan Directeur to the Font Police.
Ian 09:48 on 2024-04-21 Permalink
Yikes, +1 qatzi
I wonder if they designed it in Word?
Kate 10:10 on 2024-04-22 Permalink
Yikes +2 on that.
Word or Canva, Ian