Not sure if “expansion of REM” is appropriate terminology. These are both independent projects for the CDPQ, like the REM de l’est last month. Both projects that folk have been discussing for years, but which have been given to CDPQ because apparently semi-privatization is the only way anything gets done anymore…
The Tascherau project has the potential to be very successful, the south shore cities have been making plans around such a development for many years.
a REM up the 15 though? its going to have to transfer at De ruisseau station, and probably hit some very full trains coming from all 3 west island arms.
Also no idea how the finances are suppose to work when these are first among many options to get around, as opposed to the main REM where the monopoly makes geographic sense.
Buy quebec is dead with CETA. Also, the vehicles are a small part of total project cost.
I remember talking to sind cdpqinfra person back in 2016, who mused about the necessity of building a rem branch up the 15, as opposed to my suggestion to make the blainville line more like rapid transit. Those ppl sure like high way centric pseudo transit.
“Those ppl sure like high way centric pseudo transit.”
Its significant trend everywhere.
It’s cheap and NIMBY’s don’t complain. And with Retail going down the drain we get the possibility of those huge real estate developments. (All good things IMO)
I like the idea in principle, but the issue is capacity on to the main branch.
Not to mention the consequence for those Mascouche train folks who were promised room on the incoming trains at their new transfer station in St-Laurent. The REM is gonna get crowded.
Highway centric transit is not inevitable, as you claim, probably not even if one reduced to only the North American context, where transit planning sucks.
Also, placing a bunch of transit stations on a highway is not great for development, no matter how often you repeat this Fiction. There’s a reason why suburban highway shoulders dont encourage development…
It may be happening, but it doesn’t discount the fact that it doesn’t have to be inevitable as Ant6n highlights. It’s just lazy and unimaginative planning. The region’s development could be so much more than highways, park & rides and everyone living next to a polluted highway.
Faiz imam 13:42 on 2021-02-01 Permalink
Not sure if “expansion of REM” is appropriate terminology. These are both independent projects for the CDPQ, like the REM de l’est last month. Both projects that folk have been discussing for years, but which have been given to CDPQ because apparently semi-privatization is the only way anything gets done anymore…
The Tascherau project has the potential to be very successful, the south shore cities have been making plans around such a development for many years.
a REM up the 15 though? its going to have to transfer at De ruisseau station, and probably hit some very full trains coming from all 3 west island arms.
Also no idea how the finances are suppose to work when these are first among many options to get around, as opposed to the main REM where the monopoly makes geographic sense.
Ephraim 17:15 on 2021-02-01 Permalink
Faiz – It’s a way around the requirements of “buy Quebec” that the government itself has to live with.
Ant6n 17:38 on 2021-02-01 Permalink
Buy quebec is dead with CETA. Also, the vehicles are a small part of total project cost.
I remember talking to sind cdpqinfra person back in 2016, who mused about the necessity of building a rem branch up the 15, as opposed to my suggestion to make the blainville line more like rapid transit. Those ppl sure like high way centric pseudo transit.
Faiz imam 09:52 on 2021-02-02 Permalink
“Those ppl sure like high way centric pseudo transit.”
Its significant trend everywhere.
It’s cheap and NIMBY’s don’t complain. And with Retail going down the drain we get the possibility of those huge real estate developments. (All good things IMO)
I like the idea in principle, but the issue is capacity on to the main branch.
Not to mention the consequence for those Mascouche train folks who were promised room on the incoming trains at their new transfer station in St-Laurent. The REM is gonna get crowded.
Ant6n 10:45 on 2021-02-02 Permalink
Highway centric transit is not inevitable, as you claim, probably not even if one reduced to only the North American context, where transit planning sucks.
Also, placing a bunch of transit stations on a highway is not great for development, no matter how often you repeat this Fiction. There’s a reason why suburban highway shoulders dont encourage development…
Faiz imam 12:09 on 2021-02-02 Permalink
Meh. You may say its a fiction, but Billions of dollars of highway adjacent high density developments are happening as we speak. Thousands of units.
Might not be to your taste, but its happening.
Daniel D 19:51 on 2021-02-02 Permalink
It may be happening, but it doesn’t discount the fact that it doesn’t have to be inevitable as Ant6n highlights. It’s just lazy and unimaginative planning. The region’s development could be so much more than highways, park & rides and everyone living next to a polluted highway.