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  • Kate 21:51 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

    Last week, the Quebec minister for fighting racism, Benoit Charette, was booed at the Montreal vigil for the family murdered in London, Ontario. Quebecor columnists* have since described this as anti‑Quebec hate – as Toula Drimonis says here, “as if the people booing are not Quebecers, too.” Her latest CultMTL piece is an excellent dissection of the current state of official and unofficial Islamophobia in Quebec.

    To quote more Toula: “It’s true that English Canada can often be quick at the draw to attack Quebec and to misconstrue what happens in this province as motivated by racism and intolerance. It’s equally true that Quebec politicians and pundits often sidestep or derail legitimate criticism or needed debates by labeling it ‘Quebec bashing.’ ”

    *Martineau and MBC. I’m not linking to them, it’s not hard to google what they had to say.

     
    • Chris 23:35 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

      Wow, that article is really shoddy. I’m not familiar with the site or author, is it supposed to be an opinion piece or hard news? (It confusingly says “editorial, news” at the top.)

      For one, she seems to (deliberately or not I wonder?) conflate Islam and Muslims:

      «A poll conducted by Leger Marketing showed a direct link between support for Bill 21 and anti-Muslim sentiment. “Negative feelings about Islam, were, in fact, shown to be the main motivation behind this support.”»

      The part *she* put in quotes does *not* appear in the source she linked. Closest is: “Among those who have negative feelings about Islam, 88 per cent support a ban on religious symbols…” That is *not* the same thing as it being the “main motivation”. It’s not even necessarily causal at all. Basic logic fail.

      And having “negative feelings about Islam” says no more about one’s feelings towards Muslims as having “negative feelings about capitalism” says about one’s feelings towards capitalists. One can hate the ideology and not hate the people. Yet she interchanges the terms from one sentence to the next.

      It all reads very much like someone working backwards, trying to support an agenda.

      This whole “Islamophobia” thing is so overblown. Canada is a much better and safer place to be Muslim than any Muslim-majority country. I liked Raheel Raza’s take on CBC Power & Politics the other day (fast forward to 50:09, she talks about 10 minutes).

    • SMD 03:59 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      The Gazette article she links to has this as a quote, from the president of the association that ordered the poll:

      “Clearly what is underlying (support for Bill 21) is negative sentiment towards Islam, Muslims and hijabs. It’s not about Christian religious symbols.,” says Jack Jedwab, president of the Association for Canadian Studies.

      Seems pretty clear to me. Her editorial stands well on its own, and reflects the tensions that I see on the ground.

    • steph 07:38 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      As many identify as Quebecois but not Canadians, I identify as a Montrealer and not Quebecois. As a Montrealer I boo him too.

    • qatzelok 09:16 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      “as if the people booing are not Quebecers, too.” – Drimonis

      “I identify as a Montrealer” – Steph

    • Kate 09:23 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      qatzelok, it’s how Steph feels, which is not the same thing as what they actually are.

      Chris somehow manages to entirely miss the point of Toula’s piece.

    • Kevin 10:33 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      Only certain members of an ethnic group qualify to be Quebecois, and it’s remarkably easy to be cast out of this group. I thought that was obvious?

    • Marc T 11:07 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      To Chris

      “This whole “Islamophobia” thing is so overblown. Canada is a much better and safer place to be Muslim than any Muslim-majority country.”

      There’s so much wrong with this statement it’s hard to know where to begin. Let’s start with the fact that you’re painting the Muslim world as a monolith, which in and of itself is Islamophobic. A Muslim in Turkey and a Muslim in Saudi Arabia face two very distinct realities. Indonesia is the world’s most populated Muslim country while the Indonesian-Canadian population is the smallest Asian community in Canada. Is it possible Indonesians feel safe in their country and would prefer not to move to Canada?

      It is true that there are many Muslim-majority countries that face instability. They all have something in common: a century of Western intervention and imperialism. Starting with Britain and France, and continuing with the US (and junior partners like Canada), the West has gone into country after country and decimated secular nationalist movements by propping up right-wing Islamists. We have literally killed off popular secular movements, creating havoc in country after country, and then have the gall to be self-righteous about Canada being a “much better and safer place to be Muslim.”

      I could go on but I don’t want to bore people with non-Montreal related ranting.

    • JaneyB 11:49 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

      @Chris – I agree that it’s important to distinguish between Islam and Muslims. Lots of people, both in QC and Canada, have real reservations about Islam’s fit with the modern world eg: women, gays, religious pluralism etc. Those same people often have no problem at all with their Muslim friends, co-workers, and neighbours. The political rhetoric on the other hand, typically avoids making that distinction meaning that non-Muslims find it grating that their worries about women’s status etc are brushed off as islamophobia/racism. Indeed, I’m sure there are plenty of imams (in other countries) who don’t think modern values work well with being a good Muslim so it’s not like Cdn/Qc reservations unfounded or knee-jerk racism. Discussion about the integration of Muslims in the Canadian family would really, really benefit from greater nuance. Of course Bill 21 and Quebec is adding several other heated debates around religious piety and national lineage as well as accessing historic deep wells of xenophobia.

  • Kate 21:36 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

    As has been observed before on this blog, if you really have a problem in Montreal, you throw clowns at it, or at least circus performers.

     
    • Kate 18:51 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

      Events are now permitted 3500 spectators – events tels que playoff hockey games. Just by chance, of course…

       
      • Kate 17:23 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

        The tracks that separate Park Ex from Villeray have always been a barrier, and since CP put up a fence blocking off the passage from Parc station into Villeray, residents are becoming restless. CP says the passage was only for train passengers and not the general public. The city can only say that the matter is under discussion.

         
        • Alex 14:00 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

          They have started putting burglar grease on some of the unofficial crossings over the train tracks on the section that cuts the Plateau from Rosemont. I wish there was something we could do to get some proper crossings put in.

        • MarcG 20:27 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

          I had kids playing a ball game next to my backyard a couple of years ago and the ball would inevitably go over the fence into the garden multiple times a day. They would hop the fence to get it and crush the plants. I pleaded with them to play somewhere else. I asked them to come ring the doorbell when it happened (I work at home). I took their ball and told them to get their parents to come and get it so we could discuss the problem (the parents were dumber than their children). Eventually I made a sticky, colourful goop – turmeric and molasses maybe, I can’t recall exactly – and spread it over the top of the fence. I went out one day afterwards and saw a child using empty chips bag as gloves so he could hop over and retrieve the ball.

          What’s the moral of this tale? People will do absolutely anything to not change their behavior? They’re goddamn idiots? Alex should have told me about burglar grease earlier?

          The last time I crossed through the CN lines from Rosemont metro to Mile End there were cops giving out tickets. If there was a better/safer way to get there that took slightly longer would people use it? I think the alternative at the moment is to go over the mini-Turcot and down the stairs, which depending on where you’re going can add a decent amount of time to your trip.

        • Kate 15:07 on 2021-06-17 Permalink

          MarcG, the irony about the train line in question here is that there are two crossings of it not too far off – in Jarry Park and up at Crémazie – and everyone uses them safely, all the time, families, teenagers, old people, everyone knows how to use a goddamn railway crossing safely.

          Yes, someone can go around under the underpass, or hike up to the crossing in the park, but it’s really not necessary if CP wasn’t insisting on being boneheaded about this.

      • Kate 17:15 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

        After a hopeful announcement in March that the Montreal marathon would be run again this September, there’s news that this year’s race has been cancelled.

         
        • Kate 15:35 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

          Three veterans of Projet Montréal will be vying for the borough mayoralty of Villeray-Saint-Michel-Parc Extension in November: sitting mayor Giuliana Fumagalli, ejected from the Projet caucus during this term; Laurence Lavigne Lalonde, currently a councillor in Mercier-Hochelaga-Maisonneuve; Guillaume Lavoie, who once aspired to lead Projet, but recently signed up with Denis Coderre.

          Projet is also putting up Verdun councillor Marie-Andrée Mauger for mayor of that borough.

          Meantime, one candidate for the city mayoralty has withdrawn his hat from the ring. Jean-François Cloutier founded a party called Équité Montréal but didn’t succeed in raising much interest.

           
          • Spi 19:31 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

            Do municipal elections not have residency requirements? I could swear that there was a controversy with the outgoing Laval mayor not having resided in Laval long enough before the election to qualify as a candidate.

            I really don’t see how you can aspire to run a borough if you don’t live in it, or you’re currently a councillor for a district that you don’t live in either.

          • SMD 04:00 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

            All three current candidates for VSMPE borough mayor live in the borough.

          • Kate 09:24 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

            I read yesterday that one reason LLL is running in VSMPE is that she moved into the borough and no longer lives in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve.

          • JaneyB 11:54 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

            ViSaMiPex…so much catchier 🙂

        • Kate 11:03 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

          The soccer stadium on Papineau was requisitioned last winter as a temporary homeless shelter. Now it stands empty, neither used as a shelter nor as a focus for summer soccer camps for students.

           
          • Kate 10:53 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

            There’s to be a summit meeting Tuesday and Wednesday on the state of Montreal’s nightlife including the unveiling of a new report suggesting the city create a nightlife policy that would rule on matters of noise, but also work on supporting efforts to make our nightlife more lively and attractive.

             
            • Kate 10:17 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

              Rosemont borough has created two microforests in parks, hoping to expand biodiversity and reduce heat islands.

               
              • su 11:05 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                How much biodiversity can you have in space the size of a tennis court.

              • Kate 11:16 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                Not a lot, but it could be good for bees and butterflies if they let the underbrush develop naturally.

              • David633 20:28 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                This is an awesome idea and should be applied widely across the city. I had a fantasy several years ago of doing guerilla plantings in this vein on the large terrains at the Parc exchange, but dumped the idea when I costed it and realized the city would just tank my trees out. If you travel in the regions, you see this all the time, a thicket of trees just randomly growing on a lot or off a trail, it’s so cool.

              • Kate 21:54 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                I was walklng around Villeray tonight around sunset and noticed, as I passed a front yard heavily planted with shrubs and trees, how a cool fresh air simply wafted toward me from that spot – and this was not 200 yards from Crémazie with traffic roaring along.

                A tennis court sized orchard really can do a lot to moderate temperatures and clean the air in the surrounding area.

            • Kate 09:50 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

              The city’s plans to build five composting centres have faltered as projected costs have soared and missed deadlines mean that support offered by Quebec and Ottawa might have to be renegotiated.

               
              • Kate 09:37 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

                I don’t think I have many readers east of Pie-IX, but the question of the Ray-Mont logistics centre is interesting, if only as an object lesson in practical politics: can a community succeed in canceling a project with important economic impact but which threatens the peace of their neighbourhood, and how will the city decide? Some kind of compromise may be possible between Ray-Mont Logistics and the surrounding residential area.

                 
                • ReneB 11:00 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                  Long time reader from east of Pie-IX here.
                  The area used to be majorly industrial around L’Assomption and Hochelaga but there has been many commercial and residential projects in the last decade and the buffer between those zones is getting smaller and smaller.

                • Kate 11:01 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                  Thanks, ReneB. That’s a relevant observation.

                • dhomas 04:24 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

                  Hi there! I’m also East of Pie-IX.
                  This is a garbage project by a company that basically took advantage of a zoning loophole. It’s all very legal, but it’s still shitty. The city should have changed the zoning years ago, but this guy, Charles Raymond, got his hands on the land while it was still zoned industrial. It hasn’t been used by CN for so long that nature has started reclaiming it. The article linked doesn’t really show where the site actually is, but there’s a picture in this article that does: https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2021-03-01/projet-logistique-bloque-a-mercier-hochelaga-maisonneuve/la-ville-de-montreal-poursuivie-pour-373-millions.php. And you’ll see that it basically comes right up to very residential areas.
                  I’ve biked through that land. There’s a bike path that ends right at the entrance of CN’s territory here:
                  https://maps.app.goo.gl/XNyJGj3bbq4XThQV7. There are train tracks that go along the northern edge of the proposed Ray-Mont project. I decided to explore what was on the other side based on what I saw from Google Maps. I always kinda hoped that the city would continue that bike path alongside the train tracks and link it to the pretty great bike path along Souligny on the other side. The Souligny bike path is awesome until it dumps you in the middle of nowhere. This kind of link would have allowed cyclists to continue their path westward through some nice parts of Hochelaga Maisonneuve and even continue towards downtown.

                • Kate 09:26 on 2021-06-16 Permalink

                  East of Pie-IX is representing!

              • Kate 09:33 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

                La Presse examines what will happen with the conventional commuter trains once the REM opens.

                 
                • DeWolf 10:46 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                  Good to hear that the St-Jérôme line will see some big improvements in the coming years. But it’s still a pathetically underdeveloped network. Every time I go to Toronto I’m a little in awe of how they actually have a functioning and comprehensive commuter train network with real investment from the province.

                • Kate 11:00 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                  Our trains have always had a chicken-and-egg problem. If you run them outside of conventional commuter hours, they’re mostly empty, but since they’re seldom running outside of commuter hours, you don’t build any other ridership.

              • Kate 09:32 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

                Getting rid of those creaky old school commissions was supposed to solve all the administrative problems in primary and secondary education, but its biggest replacement in Montreal, the CSSDM “service centre”, is in such a mess that it’s going to be put sous tutelle this week.

                 
                • Kate 09:02 on 2021-06-15 Permalink | Reply  

                  Restaurant owners are pleading with patrons who make reservations to call and cancel if they change their plans. No-shows can cost restaurants hundreds per night, and they’re not allowed to take credit card details and charge delinquent customers a cancel fee.

                   
                  • Ephraim 10:11 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                    I know that they can’t charge you to make a reservation, because it is seen as no exchange of service. But could they require that you buy a $10 gift certificate to make the reservation. It still retains it’s value if you cancel, so they are getting something in the exchange.

                    Also, those app reservations are supposed to track and rate those who make reservations. The restaurant can certainly mark you as a no show… shouldn’t they be able to see if you honour your reservations? And finally, why didn’t they call the client back, tell them that they are holding the table for 5 minutes more unless they call to extend…. and then just give it away. Even if it means that the person who walks in and wants it, has to call to reserve it on the phone and then show up… a minute later 🙂

                  • Joey 12:33 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                    @Ephraim they can’t give it away on very short notice because there’s little walk-up business (indoor dining is by reservation only, it seems). I guess the only thing restos can do is engage in some public shaming, which I assume they are very reluctant to do.

                  • Ephraim 13:11 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                    Well, maybe the gift card thing will work. If you don’t show up, it still has it’s value. But are you going there to pick it up face to face after the no-show?

                  • JoeNotCharles 16:15 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                    > I know that they can’t charge you to make a reservation, because it is seen as no exchange of service.

                    So how is buying a concert ticket in advance legal? You’re still paying for a reserved space in the venue – if that’s a “service” then reserving you a space in a restaurant should be too.

                  • Ephraim 16:39 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                    Quebec has some weird laws. Essentially under the law, they aren’t supposed to legally be able to charge you a deposit on a special order… but who’s willing to do a special order without the deposit?

                  • Joey 19:54 on 2021-06-15 Permalink

                    I think JoeNotCharles is on to something. Restaurants should sell tickets.

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