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  • Kate 23:36 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

    A police car was flipped and tear gas has been deployed. Update: there were also 15 arrests and 60 tickets given out, but no reports of anyone smashing things up.

    TMZ has a report with pictures.

     
    • John B 13:45 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      From the TMZ link:

      The Montreal Canadiens punched their ticket to the Stanley Cup Finals on Thursday night … and the fans went absolutely insane!!!

      Leaving aside the casual slagging of mental disease, I think TMZ needs to adjust their expectations of what a riot actually is, last night’s rioting does not appear to have been a three-exclamation-point event. I predict much worse when the team either wins or loses – especially if they win.

    • walkerp 15:32 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Also funny was “At one point, a group of Habs fans — still wearing Habs gear — smashed up a police car and flipped it upside down!!” Sill wearing Habs gear!!! Were they supposed to don Golden Knights uniforms and then smash the cop car and blame it on the Vegas fans lol.

    • CE 09:26 on 2021-06-26 Permalink

      TMZ is basically a content farm designed to get as many people clicking on as many articles as possible. If it’s not AI writing for them at this point, their writers are scanning news articles and pumping out content in a certain style without much regard for quality or accuracy.

  • Kate 23:19 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

    The Canadiens have reached the Stanley Cup finals now for the first time since 1993. Things are getting a little overexcited downtown.

     
    • david730 03:11 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      It’s annoying that the thugs will loot stores, but it’s very, very exciting that the Habs have a shot at another Cup.

      Waited so long for this.

    • walkerp 12:15 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      It’s pretty wild. Coming out of a global pandemic (at least this phase of it), St-Jean, full moon, Habs win. Went for a crowd-watching walk last night and it really was an incredibly jubilant feeling. I’m very happy for the young people of this city who are at the age to truly love this sort of thing. They’ve earned it.

    • MarcG 13:28 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      A lot of these people are in the 18-35 crowd who never stopped partying and aren’t getting vaccinated. I’m not sure those ones have earned anything.

    • Tim S. 14:00 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      MarcG, that’s a deeply unfair comment. I know many people in that age group who did everything they were asked and lost an important year+ of their lives. In a big population there were will always be a few outliers, but I don’t think it’s at all fair to point a finger at that entire generation. As for vaccinations, they’re at 65% (18-29), which is still impressive, especially compared to say, the US. Oh, and they’re also the ones working in essential (and non-essential) retail jobs. You know, supplying us with food and stuff.

    • walkerp 15:31 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Old man yells at cloud. The 18-35 year olds that I know definitely stopped partying for a good year and it was rough for them. These are people who are at the age where going out and socializing is the main phase of your life. They had it cut off from them and they handled it a lot better than the boomers and my own lame generation full of selfish individualists whining about vaccines. Not to mention their tough career and real estate economy we left for them. Such a weak comment.

    • MarcG 16:24 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      We’ve clearly had different experiences over the past 15 months.

    • Chris 19:40 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Anecdote fight! 🙂

    • Kevin 22:29 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Earlier this year I broke up a birthday party. Ten young adults who showed up minutes before curfew on a Monday night to a home where none of them lived, but one of them had a spare key. When I let myself in a couple hours later and gave the very loud unclothed people hell, they had a litany of excuses as to why their multiple health violations were ok just this once.

      The parents who were out of town had told me it was going to be a few people getting together for a quiet night playing board games. When I told them what was actually happening they were furious they had been lied to.

  • Kate 22:39 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

    Lucien Bouchard was made a citizen of honour of the city of Montreal Thursday.

     
    • david730 03:24 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      I’m drunk, tired, and very happy right now, so maybe this is a product of that, but Bouchard . . . he’s been sort of rehabilitated from his 1990s villain status, hasn’t he?

      We know that he’s pretty much always lived in Montreal, and we know that he has suffered some fairly horrific personal reversals. We know too that he did a lot of good when he was the prime minister, even if he wasn’t exactly a friend of the anglophone community (and that I personally was raised to consider him something equivalent to how drug addicts in the Philippines think of their president Duterte).

      But I’ve met Bouchard and people around him quite a few times over the past couple decades and, as villainous as he seemed, guy is a decent chap in the end.

    • Raymond Lutz 08:01 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Lucien Bouchard était un promoteur de la privatisation des services d’aqueduc (lors de son mandant) et plus récemment un défenseur de l’industrie pétrolière durant l’épisode du “fracking” québécois. Un vrai gentleman en effet.

    • Kate 09:24 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Is it just me, or did Plante make this gesture at least partly to placate the language nationalists snapping at her heels?

    • DavidH 10:12 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      @Kate, that’s exactly what I thought. If Hadrien Parizeau had not sided with Coderre, PM would not have felt the need to dig up Bouchard.

    • david287 10:55 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      She’s done quite a few things in this vein, all the french language this and that and, of course, the Landry station thing.

  • Kate 16:35 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

    This Canada Day will be no celebration. If anything, we need to hold a silent march in black.

     
    • EmilyG 20:47 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

      Some people are planning to wear orange, to honour victims and survivors of residential schools.

    • Kate 22:07 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

      Orange seems oddly festive, unless you have Irish Catholic antecedents…

    • ant6n 23:21 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

      well you know, Orange is the new Black.

    • david730 03:09 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Moving Day, I think you mean.

    • Kate 08:59 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Canada Day isn’t Moving Day the way it used to be. Back when rent was a lot cheaper relative to incomes, people moved house more often. If you weren’t moving yourself, usually you knew someone who was, who would reward you with pizza and beer for pitching in. But it hasn’t been like that in awhile. Now when you have an affordable apartment that suits your needs you’re not going to leave it lightly, even if it’s not perfect.

    • EmilyG 10:21 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      There are some ideas on how to observe Canada Day in solidarity with Indigenous people, here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CQg9nGVHBVf/

    • GC 12:07 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      Thanks for that link, EmilyG.

    • EmilyG 13:17 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

      You’re welcome.

      And for those wondering why the colour orange was chosen: https://www.orangeshirtday.org/phyllis-story.html

  • Kate 15:45 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

    Céline Dion has tweeted that she was never photographed in Golden Knights kit – it was, as suggested here and elsewhere, photoshopped.

     
    • Kate 15:26 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

      A waterside resident who saw a seaplane crash in the Back River on Wednesday afternoon jumped aboard her personal watercraft and went to the pilot’s rescue. He wasn’t even hurt.

       
      • Kate 15:18 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

        Police are bracing for a hot night in the old town in case the Canadiens win the series on Saint-Jean, and during a full moon too. The mayor is asking us not to riot.

         
        • Kate 15:10 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

          CTV has published a letter from a consortium of bosses plus the head of the city’s chamber of commerce, ordering everyone back to the office.

           
          • j2 15:47 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            Banks and insurance companies. I can see the regulatory challenges being harder for them or parts of them and it makes sense, but a lot of the tech workers will get to choose what they want. Many have moved out of Montreal, 2 out of 5 in my team went from NDG and downtown to south shore, another is looking for an hour plus away.

          • Kevin 15:49 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            More of a plea since hardly anyone want to go back full time.

            “Fifty-five per cent of workers downtown would like to go back to the office two or three days a week, and over 20 per cent would like to go back for four or five days.”

            That’s the reality buried past the point most people stop reading: the vast majority would like to work from home most of the week.

          • GC 17:35 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            It’s interesting you titled the thread that way, Kate, as it almost implies we haven’t been working all this time we’ve been doing it from home. (Thought that is likely not your personal belief…) Isn’t there evidence that many have actually been more productive without the office distractions? I do wonder, however, if many have also been working more hours.

          • Tim S. 17:54 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            It says a lot about the lack of imagination in our society’s leadership that people have to do something that makes them miserable because, with over a year to think about it, they can’t conceive of downtown differently than as a collection of service-sectors businesses catering to commuting workers. We must all do our part to save Tiki-Ming!

          • Blork 19:17 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            I’m in no hurry to get back to the office, but primarily because I don’t relish the idea of getting back on buses and the Metro. But I do miss seeing people around the office and the casual chats and whatnot. I also miss the downtown lunches (there were a handful of places I went to frequently and I sooo miss them!) I also miss the after-work 5 à 7s that just don’t happen when you work from home and home isn’t anywhere near most of your friends’ homes.

            Incidentally, I read an article last week (The New Yorker maybe?) in which some apparent experts claimed the ideal number of days per week to work from home is two. As in, work from home two days a week, work at office three days a week. (I forget what exactly their criteria was, but I think it was along the lines of “what will make you happy.”)

            I’m lucky in that my current employer is very flexible and I can do basically whatever I want, so I think I might opt for 3:2 (home:office) with the occasional 4:1 or even 5:0 if I goddamn well feel like it. And yes, I’m aware that not everyone has this privilege.

          • JP 00:17 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

            Interesting to see the names of the signatories…mostly male and francophone sounding.

          • Kate 09:40 on 2021-06-25 Permalink

            Mostly members of the Conseil du patronat, but that isn’t surprising.

        • Kate 10:31 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

          Facing dwindling enrolment, Lindsay Place High School in Pointe-Claire is closing with this school year, and the building will be taken over by a different anglophone school.

          (I mostly remember the name because my high school team beat theirs, when I was on the team.)

           
          • Jebediah Pallendrome 14:21 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            But it’s the French language that’s threatened…

        • Kate 08:32 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

          Faced with the decline of French in the city, city hall is being pressed by Hadrien Parizeau to create a council to promote French before the November election.

           
          • Jack 09:36 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            I wonder where he will get the money and ethnic votes to make this happen?

          • Uatu 09:55 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            Ugh. As a visible minority I’m getting ready to have to deal with the random fear and disdain from strangers. Just the other day I got lectured by some Karen because I was talking in English and my white friend got guilt tripped because how am I going to learn French if we’re using English even though I can speak French but hey I’m not white so that means I’m some new immigrant right? Apparently talking about Wandavision in English in the Metro is an assault on the language and culture of QC. But that’s the election cycle of QC. Every couple of years I get to be the de facto cause of everything wrong in the province.

          • Kate 10:02 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            Uatu, I know, and I’m sorry. I’m white but I’ve seen it: once, walking down St-Denis talking with a friend (Chinese from HK, but been here almost all his life) a random guy ran up and screamed in our faces to speak French, and more recently, on the bus, I watched as two young Black women, who’d been talking together so quietly I hadn’t noticed them nor had any idea what language they were speaking, were lectured by an older white woman about how they had no business speaking English in public. I could think of other incidents but these are two I’ve not forgotten.

            Read MBC today. He seems to forget that if only white post-Catholic francophones are true Québécois, it kind of doesn’t matter what the rest of us do, because we’re not Québécois, we’re aliens. What would he do with us, if he had his way, I wonder.

            Jack: nice reference.

          • JS 14:07 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            Can’t we all just learn to politely tell these people to va chier and to criss nous la paix hostie de mongol and be done with it?

          • Ant6n 14:40 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            Or how about telling those fascists to stop infringing in other people’s charter rights, and also stop listening in on their private conversations.

          • dhomas 16:10 on 2021-06-24 Permalink

            I speak to my kids exclusively in English and my wife speaks to them exclusively in French. One time at the grocery store when I had just moved East of Pie-IX, I was speaking to my kid and some lady told me that I should speak French in Quebec. I took immense pleasure in responding in perfect Québécois “J’te garantis que mon français est meilleur que ton anglais.”
            My kids are perfectly bilingual. I think that’s a good thing, but I somehow think Hadrien Parizeau and the CAQ government disagree.

            On a separate topic, how can anyone take Hadrien Parizeau seriously? This guy is a girouette, switching from party to party, whenever he feels like it. He started with Coderre, worked with PM, got expelled from Ensemble, and is now back with Coderre. What a joke. I hope his association with Coderre brings them both down. Two turkeys don’t make an eagle.

        • Kate 08:31 on 2021-06-24 Permalink | Reply  

          A shot was fired overnight in Montreal North but, aside from finding a cartridge, police have no leads.

           
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