Sid Lee Architecture has produced an eye‑catching structure for Montreal West’s train stop. Gallery of photos shows the edicule from every angle.
One new building, one old: the Wall Street Journal admires the Orange Julep.
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Kate
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Kate
One person was killed in a multi-vehicle crash Sunday morning on the Turcot. TVA says someone ran from the crash as well.
In other police blotter news, two men were stabbed in separate incidents Sunday morning, and a driver plunged a car into the wall of a Maxi Saturday night – “La thèse de la conduite avec les capacités affaiblies n’a pas été écartée.” You think maybe?
Nicholas
The number of people who crash vehicles into buildings, unaided by any other vehicle nor anything other than their own incompetence, recklessness, or negligence, is astounding.
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Kate
The Globe and Mail’s Marcus Gee writes a glowing encomium to Montreal’s summer glories.
Chris
He seems to have over-extrapolated after seeing a few nice sections, but even in the Plateau 90% of the streetscape is a car-dominated hellhole.
Ian
A hellhole, eh? Lol.
Kate
I’m half tempted to ask Chris what place he feels is not a hellhole, but I’m afraid it would lead to suggestions he should go there.
DeWolf
I think Chris has been spending too much time on r/fuckcars. Or maybe just rewatching NotJustBikes’ rather performative video bashing Montreal.
There’s still a lot of work to be done on the Plateau even with 10+ years of improvements, and yes, the entire borough is still dominated by cars, given that they’re almost everywhere. But “hellhole” is such a ridiculous overstatement. I’m not sure how you can walk around the Plateau, which has so many small delights, and think that it’s a hellhole. Unless you have some incredibly strong ideological blinders on…
Chris
Yeah, hellhole is too strong I guess, (boy you guys are literal!), but the author gives the impression that the kinds of things he describes are common and everywhere, while in fact very rare, with the reality being almost every street is dedicated to car movement and parking. Readers from elsewhere will have the wrong impression.
DeWolf, I don’t read reddit at all, but I did see that NotJustBikes video, and I think he’s rather right, with this article being a good example. Extolling small positive examples while saying little about the majority situation.
Montreal, Plateau especially, has indeed made some nice progress in recent decades, but it’s far too slow for my liking. At this pace, we’ll all be dead before it really reaches anything great.
It’s a choice to dedicate all this space to cars. We could choose instead of allows cars on only every other street for example. But we don’t. And never will. People don’t want it. I know my opinion is in the 0.1% range.
Robert H
Heavens, Chris, how can you stand it here? And where else in Canada would you go? Where else in North America for that matter?
Ian
It’s a choice to live in a place that devotes so much space to cars. That you live in a place that has so many cars and roads and infrastructure is on you. There are many parts of Canada, and even right here in Quebec that have no roads at all. Nobody is stopping youi from living off the grid in a remote area. Quebec even has a long history of communes and experimental rural communities if the social aspect is what’s holding you back, you just need to find a few people as pure of soul as you.
You can drive as far north in Quebec as km 666 on the Trans-Taiga, a mere 750km north of Radisson (or so) then there are no roads at all. Nobody is keeping you from this car-free paradise. If you really want to be a purist, you could get flown up by bush plane so you wouldn’t have to worry about what to do with your now-useless car.
You are not only part of the 0.1% range of people who have opinions this strong about car-free living, but the even smaller percentage unwilling to take advantage of the perfect opportunity to make your dreams a reality.
DeWolf
That’s awfully disingenuous of you, Ian. We’re talking about cities, not remote off-grid living. It’s not unreasonable to want to live in a city where you don’t need to constantly suffer the noise, pollution and mortal danger of having too many cars in too many places.
There’s a huge, huge spectrum between the status quo in Montreal and a car-free utopia. Reducing the amount of space cars have in the city doesn’t mean getting rid of them entirely, but it does mean vastly improving the quality of life of the people who live here.
Ian
I’m not the one that self-describes as a 0.1% purist, I’m not being disingenuous at all.
I grew up on a commune without electricity or indoor plumbing, it’s entirely attainable if that’s what you really want and aren’t just posturing.
DeWolf
I don’t think Chris (or myself) wants to live in the countryside. You’re missing the point. It’s about cars *in the city* and how to reduce their impact. Clearly I have more tolerance for cars than Chris does, but I think we both agree that city living is safer, more productive and pleasant when the city isn’t crisscrossed by dangerous pseudo-highways.
Ian
Well at least you don’t blame it on immigrants …
I naturally give your takes more credit for nuance than those Chris blurts out.
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Kate
How Notre‑Dame‑du‑Perpétuel‑Secours church in Ville‑Émard became a theatre may serve as a template for other disused churches in the city – if they’re in a fit state to be repurposed.
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Kate
The new ARTM fare grille comes into effect Monday. A single ticket remains $3.75 but the typical STM monthly pass notches up from $97 to $100.
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Kate
There’s a fair bit about the NHL draft in the sports news, for those interested, but the only tidbit that’s caught my eye is that they’ve drafted Saku Koivu’s son.
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Kate
QMI has a story about known mobster Antonio Pietrantonio narrowly escaping an attack by two unknown assailants last week.
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Kate
The July 1 moving day isn’t what it was. This piece mostly focuses on people choosing to move on other days, but eventually gets to the fact that in a housing market like this, people are more likely to hang onto a place they’ve got and that they can afford, however imperfect.
Even so, piles of stuff have been spotted on various streets as people quickly shuffle off unwanted goods before moving.
A mover that CTV spoke to in the story above estimates that 40% of current moves are evictions. La Presse talks to one man evicted after 27 years in his St‑Michel apartment, leaving him with nowhere to go.
More detail from CBC, which spoke to the owner of Le Clan Panneton: “his business was only booked at half capacity Monday because most people have been moving in the few days before or after instead. He says it’s because landlords who evict their tenants have to pay for their moving expenses and want to avoid the higher fees on July 1.”
Ian
Hard to feel bad for the predatory moving companies that made mad cash by jacking up their prices when everyone had to move on the same day
Tangentially related,I am seeing a few places still for rent in my neighbourhood – I can only assume they are hoping for those “upper middle global ex-pat citizen class from France” UdeM students who don’t mind paying inflated prices for a poorly maintained dump as long as it has lots of rooms and is within biking distance of school.
Anton 02:48 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
Not to trash the architect, And I know this is just a second entrance but this design is not very helpful, because what this station needs is four tracks and separation from the two level crossings before and after, and connection to those streets, as well as a roof over the platforms.
This station is at joining point of three rail lines merging into the city, a rail line that is parallel to a very highly served bus line (105) but a rail line that sees very little actual service.
It’s kind of typical AMT thinking to produce nice looking prestige buildings next to lines offering little service, rather than thinking about what’s needed to increase service.
Kate 08:17 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
Is it a second entrance? I don’t know that stop well, only having used it once, but used to be just a platform and a small shelter for the ticket machines, before they built this new thing. Most of the exo stops are no more than that.
H. John 09:56 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
The original station is still there and stands directly across the tracks from the new entrance which replaces a stairway (leading from Sherbrooke St to the platform).
The original building housed a ticket office, baggage room, and waiting room.
Lots of childhood memories of buying tickets, checking bags, and then heading to Quebec City (first stopping at Park Avenue Station and then Three Rivers).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montréal-Ouest_station#/media/File:Montreal_West_-_AMT_Train_Station.jpg
Kate 10:04 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
Is that building still in use, H. John?
There’s one in Westmount in a similar style that’s been out of use for decades.
H. John 10:38 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
@Kate I’m honestly not sure, but Wiki thinks it is:
“Along with Beaconsfield station, it is the only station on the line to retain its original station building (1889) in passenger use. In addition to ticketing facilities, the station building houses an underpass that connects to two headhouses on the island platform. Mechanical bells are still sounded as a signal when trains approach this station.”
Major Annoyance 11:06 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
The original Montreal West station is still in use. I’d love to see the Westmount station resurrected, but it’s landlocked now by the surrounding townhouses, and there’s no place left to put it around the Vendôme station.
Two more historic station buildings survive along the Vaudreuil train line. The one at Valois station is now the Pointe-Claire community resource centre. It doesn’t seem to have many visitors from the few times I get out to Delibee for smoked meat. The Beaconsfield station building is still used by passengers. The eastern part has a waiting room with a washroom and gives access to a tunnel underneath the tracks. I’m not sure what’s going on in the western (2-storey) part of the building.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valois_station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaconsfield_station_(Exo)
Nicholas 17:47 on 2024-07-01 Permalink
When I went there in February, you could no longer walk from the platforms directly to Westminster, instead needing to take the tunnel to the old station building or the new entrance. This meant a longer walk for everyone going to Westminster, and since I think there are no elevators, it means needing to walk all the way to Elmhurst and back around on Sherbrooke. I’m sure it was done for “safety” reasons, but this whole thing is negative value.
Anton is also right, that it would be better with four tracks and more service. But no one at Exo or ARTM cares about trains, so we don’t use the resources we have.