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  • Kate 23:00 on 2022-12-22 Permalink | Reply  

    La Presse does a simple count and shows us that more people died from Covid in Quebec in 2022 than 2021 – the Omicron variant blamed for the trend.

    • H. John 02:01 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      Tara Moriarty tweeted on the 19th:

      “Canada has just passed 50,000 reported COVID-19 deaths.

      In reality, we’ve likely had about 80K deaths, with another 20K to come as the last 20-30% of us are infected.

      In the U.S., the half a million dead milestone was front page news.

      Will our equivalent even be discussed?”


      Clearly not if our politicians can help it.

    • MarcG 10:27 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      More deaths Canada-wide this year than 2020 and 2021 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_Canada#Deaths_by_year. Quebec looks different because 2020 was especially brutal here.

    • Tee Owe 12:34 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      Sorry to be contrarian, but I have a problem about the numbers.
      Numbers infected with Covid – these I can trust, they are based on PCR or antigen tests
      Numbers hospitalized – I am nervous – if a person enters hospital with a broken leg and tests positive for Covid, they are counted as hospitalized Covid-positive, but they are not there because of Covid.
      Numbers dead -same problem as hospitalized – did they die with Covid, or because of it?
      I am not denying that Covid is serious and can kill, but I worry about the numbers – can anybody help me on this?

    • Kevin 14:30 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      Quebec data differentiates between those who are hospitalized because of Covid, and those who are hospitalized due to something else but also have Covid. Not that it matters in terms of resources: when a patient has Covid, they go to a Covid ward with all its extra care requirements.

      But you can be assured that when Quebec reports a Covid death, it really is someone dying because of that disease

    • MarcG 14:34 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      TO: It’s surprisingly hard to find info on this but here’s something from March, 2022: “Deaths due to COVID-19, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), are those for which the virus is the underlying cause of death, or the disease that initiated the series of events leading directly to a person’s death. For pre-existing conditions that are believed to increase a person’s risk of severe COVID-19 resulting in death, it should be counted as a death due to COVID-19, PHAC says. However, in situations where death was deemed to be caused by another disease but still influenced by the virus, COVID-19 should still be recorded on the medical certificates of cause of death, but would not be considered a death due to COVID-19.” link

    • Chris 14:42 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      > Will our equivalent even be discussed?

      It’s being discussed. Right there in our ‘newspaper of record’ linked by Kate.

      I just don’t get why some people get so worked up about x people still dying of covid, while not getting worked up about x people dying of plenty of other things like say air pollution or automobile crashes. What policy changes do they want? Forced boosters? Forced masking? About as likely to happen as forced use of public transit to save the 15k Canadians killed by air pollution each year.

    • Tim S. 14:57 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      Chris, this is a really weird forum to complain that nobody cares about car deaths. It’s possible to want to avoid needless death, period.

    • Tee Owe 11:47 on 2022-12-24 Permalink

      Thanks MarcG and Kevin

  • Kate 15:19 on 2022-12-22 Permalink | Reply  


    The Journal asks whether you’re ready for the storm and CBC looks at travel disruptions, as we brace for a mixture of snow, rain and ice.

    Update: Tweets are saying the CSSDM, the EMSB as well as other schools are already announcing closures for tomorrow.

    One Radio-Canada reporter tweeted that he hadn’t seen so many people in the SAQ or the grocery store since March 12, 2020.

    Update Friday morning: Power’s out for some, mostly outside town. The snow is waterlogged and heavy: expect a workout.

    • Tim S. 16:29 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

      The graphic, finally!

    • Kate 19:24 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

      It was time!

  • Kate 14:22 on 2022-12-22 Permalink | Reply  

    A first list of what’s open and closed for the holidays has been posted.

    • Blork 19:00 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

      A little weird that the article ends with “Chinese food” and a list of Chinese restos that are open on Christmas. Yeah, that’s a thing, but it’s not like Chinese restos are the ONLY ones open on Christmas is it?

    • mare 21:48 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

      @blork Very limited sampling size, but a few years ago I went to Jean-Talon in Park-Ex on Christmas to eat Indian food, and was surprised that almost all restaurants were closed. Only a few were open but jam packed.

    • shawn 09:49 on 2022-12-23 Permalink

      The Chinese food thing does seem a bit lazy but obviously they’re not going to spend too much time on something like this. There aren’t that many truly kosher restaurants in Montreal but they should be open too on Sunday, Christmas day.

  • Kate 14:21 on 2022-12-22 Permalink | Reply  

    Quebec is prepared to contract with private agencies for millions of hours in healthcare work, while rejecting a plan to end mandatory overtime at Maisonneuve‑Rosemont hospital.

    It seems the province is happier to make sure private investors can skim off their profits than to hire fairly on the public side.

    • Kate 14:17 on 2022-12-22 Permalink | Reply  

      This week, another pedestrian was killed, this time on a Laval street, as described in this piece, which asks how streets can be made safer.

      But it’s clear that it’s always a struggle. You make streets safer for pedestrians by slowing traffic, which goes against the fundamental 20th‑century dictum that motor traffic should be allowed to move as unobstructedly as possible everywhere at all times.

      • Orr 18:36 on 2022-12-25 Permalink

        Mandate geographic-specific urban safety-zone speed limiters.
        Modern cars are fully gps-connected.
        And make traffic fines a % of income, so wealthy people receive a real penalty (for a change).

    • Kate 09:16 on 2022-12-22 Permalink | Reply  

      A report on a bit of stolen holiday decor widens out into a story about how restaurants constantly lose items to pilferage. Who are these barbarians who patronize a resto and think they have a right to anything not nailed down?

      • Kevin 10:42 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

        They’re not even patrons. They’re guys who were walking by, tried to steal something, and came back with tools to cut the wires holding it in place.

      • Kate 11:08 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

        I know that’s the main story, but then it gets into people stealing things like hand soap dispensers – and they have to have been patrons, to be using the bathroom.

      • DeWolf 12:18 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

        People don’t seem as inclined to steal Christmas decorations from people’s homes, so there must be some psychological thing going on where people think that because it’s a restaurant and therefore a pseudo-public space, it’s fair game.

        Hard to explain the nutcracker thieves though. Is there a resale market for that kind of thing? Did one of them just really fancy the nutcracker?

      • Ian 12:33 on 2022-12-22 Permalink

        Probably drunks out on a toot, thought it was hilarious at the time.

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